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FIRST THE POSITIVE COMMENTS
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Per Samuelsson writes:
I just want to tell you that your adoom work fine on my a1200 with 060
64 mhz (AGA).
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^_^ <bitbrker@ionet.net> (Tm2) writes:
ADoom is excellent!!!!!!!!!!! It runs very reasonably on my
030-50MHz with 8MB RAM. Please continue your efforts, as they are
most appreciated.
[...]
I'm enjoying your ADoom port more every day! It's one slick
piece of work!
[...]
Again, thanks a lot for the port! I have had really a lot of
fun on my Ami thanks to your efforts. It won't be forgotten!
[...]
I will say, however, all in all it all runs in an impressive speed
on my 030-50MHz. Much faster than I would have thought possible!
Your Doom port is something magical! (It's sort of scaring me now!)
[...]
I've been playing Doom II with ADoom v0.6 for the last few hours,
and I can wholeheartedly say: YAHOOOO!!!!! GREAT, GREAT FUN!!!!
Oh yeah! It is fast, fast, fast on my 030 now. On some scenes it's even
faster than my 486 PC. Of course with some complex views, it's a bit slower.
;)
[...]
I downloaded v0.8 and tried it, and it is MOST COOL!!!
Now that the popping in the music is gone, the game has a really
polished feel! And, I noticed on some simpler levels, the engine
really speeds up on my 030 (up past 10fps).
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Benjamin YORIS <afe@mygale.org> writes:
By reducing a bit the screen size (2 times from the maxsize) the result is
very impressive on my Apollo 1240/40 Mhz NTSC. Congratulations !!
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"Simon Kempster" <skempster@enterprise.net>
Very impresive, for such a short period of time. :) I've checked out
the other ports that I could find, and yours is definitely the best so
far. Now, if you could just get the speed up a bit...
[...]
My machine is A1200 + Blizzard 1260 + 16Mb Fast RAM. Standard AGA, no
graphics card.
[...]
I wrote to you a couple of weeks ago about ADoom 0.1, saying that I
was impressed, but if you could just get the speed up...
Well, ADoom 0.5 absolutely *flies* on my Blizzard 1260 now -
definitely the fastest of the available Doom ports for my machine.
Bloody good work! :)
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Dominique Harelle <dharelle@mpx.com.au> writes:
I download you version of Doom yesterday and think that it's great. I
have been trying to setup AmiDoom but have trouble with getting the
sound to work properly, small screen corruption and the game freezing
when you select a menu option.
Your version doesn't display any of these problems, sound works
without the need for AHI. The graphics look as they should on a
320x240x256 CGFX screen and it play very smoothly indeed.
[...]
Well done for a good game port and thank you.
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David Wahlberg <hergeir@algonet.se> writes:
I have tested ADOOM with the sharware wad.I have an A1200 with
Blizzard 1230-IV and it works great!. Not fullscreen, but close. And
with some Optimation for AGA and 020+, it would be even better. So i
wish to thank you for bringing us this great game.
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Lars Nelson <lars@infohwy.com> writes:
Thank you so much for ADoom. I would like to buy the
Amiga Port when Networking support is finished. I used it
on a low-res CyberGraphX screen, and it plays without a
problem. I like it better than the one at www.pluk.com
because yours has sound support, and did not crash.
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Gareth Murfin <gazy@globalnet.co.uk> writes:
This letter concerns Adoom. Firstly id like to tell you what you've
done. You have brought the very finest the gaming world has to offer
to Amiga, you have given us a PERFECT conversion of Doom, except this
is better, it can Multitask. Whats more is that this early beta
version runs like it is on a bloody p200, on my 060/50. yes it runs
like a bloody dream! Its fast, Its Smooth and its down right
impressive. To be honest I didnt think even an 060 was capable of
this. But this has re-wrote the book on how good the Amiga is. With
my 060 and AGA I can play this game which i thought was impossible.
Yes for years Ive thought that games such as gloom are better, and
indeed i still think that Gloom is unbeatable, but doom is pushing it
very close.
Pete, you're a god! ;)..
[...]
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-CFP <mailto:duckstrer@hotmail.com> writes
hello and thanks for your work on the doom src. as for aga compatibility,
it works fine on a4k 040/40 and there are no trouble when exiting the
game. default adoom res is dblntsc lowres on my system and gfx speed is very
fine. i just copied the wad from the macdoom demo i had on my shapeshifter
partition. it complains about wrong version of the builtin demo but
otherwise works fine for playing.
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"H.R. Laser" <hrlaser@netcom.com> writes:
Thanks for doing this port - I'm sure Amigoids all over the world are
chanting your name in praise by now.
It runs perfectly on my 40mhz 030 A1200. (Haven't tried it on my 060 yet
because that machine is only ECS).
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mad@mail.cosmos.it (Guido Falsi) writes:
Hello, I'm using adoom 0.2 and it's very good(on aga it's not very
fast, but I'm sure that in a few days(when I'll have a CV3D ;-) it
will go as fast as it goes on PCees ;-)
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Alexander Niven-Jenkins <anj@cremlinsoftware.org> writes:
All I can is excellent, it runs brilliantly on my 060 far better than
AmiDoom, [...]
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Niko Tomatsidis <ntomatsi@c2i.net> writes:
This game is great, and it's so fast that you would not belive it:)))
I got one big problem with this version. You got to use CTRL to
fire, and since I got a PC (natural keyboard) the Caps lock is
The CTRL key, and therefore it won't work, so I can't fire:((
can you please make ALT or Amiga the fire key.
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"Ben 'bean' Cass" <bean@ideal.net.au> writes:
ADoom is bloody brilliant! It runs quite smooth at almost full screen on my
AGA A4000/040 25MHz! I run NewWPA8 which may have something to do with the
great speed but doesn't the latest SetPatch do the same thing?? You say there
is not much Amiga specific code yet. Does that mean it could get even
faster?!? At the moment it is running faster than Gloom!
Ah well, it's great to have such a good game finally for free on Amiga!
Keep the 040 optimisation BTW. You need it. I need it. It's good enough. ;)
THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!!!
At least Adoom works unlike some others. ;)
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"Jon Aslund" <jooon@hem1.passagen.se> writes:
I just want to send you a I-like-your-port-it's-better-than-the-others-letter.
You have made a good job. Firstly, it works. Secondly, it's fast. I read
that it had optimized c2p for 040 and I was very happy, because I have 040.
I tried it and it was definitely faster than the others that I had tried.
It took some time to figure that I had played the game WITHOUT 040
optimized c2p. I had to start without startup-sequence because of little
memory and then the FPU wasn't recognized until I started setpatch. THEN it
went FAST! :)
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aTmosh@amiga.cistron.nl (Thomas Tavoly) writes:
v0.2 exits with 8000.0003 here BTW, and the SHIFT key needs to be
let go and re-pressed in order to be running again, seems killing
monsters switches it off. Otheriwise it works great. Too bad the
Heretic sources aren't available yet, it's the best of the 3D
crop..
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Fabian Jimenez <fabian@cais.com> writes:
Yeah, I got it and it works great. I will safely say that you have smoked
the other version hands down. [...]
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Georges Segel <segel@club-internet.fr> writes:
Adoom 0.2 work very well on my AMIGA.
I see you use SAS/C 6.58 so do-you think to do
a version PPC Adoom with the SAS/C PPC update patch ?
My config is:
A4000/PPC604e/200MHz/060/50MHz with PICASSOII under CyberGraphX.
If you want somebody to test a version PPC, I'm ready :-)
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"Jason Watson" <ilya@enterprise.net> writes:
Just a short mail to say how impressed with v0.2 of ADoom I am.
[...]
Just for your reference my setup is:-
A4000 40Mhz 040 Wb3.1 Ks3.1 2Mb Chip 24Mb Fast.
Cybervision 64/3D 4Mb and Scandoubler using r69c CyberGfx3.
I usually use a 320x200 8-bit CGfx display on ADoom but it also works
very well on every standard screenmode I have tried so far.
I have compared ADoom with the other amiga versions currently being
distributed and so far yours has impressed me the most. For a start
it is more functional.
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Andrew Deacon <andy@deakmann.demon.co.uk> writes:
Congrats first version i've tried that works!
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"Steven Pearson" <steven.pearson@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
WOW!
ADoom is amazing =)
I'm playing on a 030/50 No Fpu with AGA
Any chance of any optimisation =)
And sound REALLY made the difference!
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metrodj@swlink.net (Troy Bastin) writes:
I have a 1200 with a 40Mhz 030 without a graphics card (yet).
It doesn't run any slower than Gloom in full screen mode
[...]
Also wanted to tell you "Good job"---I don't know where we
would be right now without people like you. Thank you.
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CMM <turk@gulftel.com> writes:
ADoom is cool and you've done a good job. Both
Dooms...yours and AmiDoom fly on my A3000T, 32MB,
PicassoII & WarpEngine 040/40mhz.
[...]
Keep up the great work. The game flys on my
machine and so does Amidoom. Id were assholes
to even say that the Amiga couldn't run a game
like this, because it runs better on my Amiga
than I've ever seen it run on a PC! :)
If either version were any faster they would
be unplayable as they would be too fast! :)
Anyway...great job!
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Toby Zuijdveld <hotcakes@abacus.net.au> writes:
First I have to say... Well bloody done!
The most playable DOOM port I have seen on my 020 yet!
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CMM <turk@gulftel.com> writes:
ADoom is great and the other one is nice as well but
you have outdone them with the sound and all. :)
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Henrik Mattsson <asparagus@mail.bip.net> writes:
It's always fun to be of some kind of help, btw, I really appreciate
adoom! Yeah, in case you want to compile a list of specs. that works
well with adoom: a1200 + blizzard 1230 50 w. 8Mb fast - works fine
except some jerkiness in fullscren.
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Matthew Gregan <kinetik@caverock.net.nz> writes:
First, let me congratulate you on your port of Doom. I got your
version after getting the AmigaDoom version, and found it too be much
better, having ECS support, and being easier to get running (ie no
crashes from ADoom (0.2) and it ran straight off... AmigaDoom crashed
many times...
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Mauri Hiltunen <mauri.hiltunen@dlc.fi> writes:
I dowloaded your ADoom archive from aminet and tried it. Perfect it
works fine and it is the only doom port that works with my Amiga. But
there are two things. Sounds are not played correctly, there seems to
be missing lot of samples and when the samples are played they come
with deley and when I quit the Doom it crashes the hole system.
My Amiga is:
A1200 motherboard on Mikronik tower + zorroII slots Kikstart 3.0
Cybervision 64/3D + CGX Software v3.1
Blizzard 1230-IV / 16 MB of fast Ram
And the programs that I use with my Workbench are
AmigaOS3.0 with MCP, Magicselector, Newicons4.1, Toolmanager
Thanks for good port, keep it going.
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Benni <gerhard.schilling@nuernberg.netsurf.de> writes:
after some test and looking around for all tose Amiga Doom ports I
have to say that yours looks like the best imho. [...]
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"Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk> writes:
I'm just writing this email to say how brilliant I think ADoom is. and
eerrm, thats it really.
I suppose you'll want to know what machines it works on and about s
and so on, so here they are.
My machine, 1200 blizzard 030 FPU@50MHz and 16 mb SIMM 60ns
on my machine, I use the third from largest window, and I get a very
good frame rate. I guess that this runs at twice the speed of
alien breed 3d II.
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Per Jonsson <per.jonsson@laetus.se> writes:
I just wanted to congratulate you to a VERY good Doom port.
I was really amazed, I hope you will continue to port/optimize it
further.
Very good work!
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timboo@innotts.co.uk (Tim Pykett) writes:
Having tried out your demo of
ADoom . I must say it's the best
i've tried so far. Keep up the good work!!
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Hexagon of Topex <Hexagon@Programmer.net> writes:
I have ADoom 0.2 and found it the best and fastest among the 3 other ports.
I'm using Amiga 1200 with blizzard 1230-IV 50MHz and FPU.
I have no gfx-card (except my graffiti) and have 16 MB fast.
As you can see I'm using AGA, and it works perfectly. [...]
The greatest with your ADoom is the sound !!!
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madjack@zumzum.tky.hut.fi (Tuomas Aho) writes:
I just found program called ADOOM. version was 0.2 (1.1.98)
I have never seen such a FAST doom in Amiga. My computer is
A1200+020/28Mhz and it works with it quite fast & good, but....
sometimes after few minutes play (5-15) it just crash (program
jummed). Tasks will change (ctrl+m) but the game does not move.
Well.. can you do something ? :) I know i know.. it's very hard to track down
bugs like that but the game is so fast and nice....
The other version of adoom (hmm.. that was made by trace or something?) does
not work at all. Besides i hate programs which uses Ixemul.library ;-)
[...]
btw; i found another bug.. in 0.2 game exits middle of game very
often and says just 'returnconde 20' .
[...]
Well.. i just install version 0.3 of ADoom but it still exists middle of
action! But now is discover to write errorcode to paper.. here it is:
'Error: z_ct at w.wad.c:514'
plus that returncode 20..
HUH! hope you can find reason of this very bad bug..
[...]
Humm.. huh.. i just tested full version of Doom1 .. same things happen and
there should not be any wrong maxtransfer rates on the hd..
[This one's got me stumped, Peter McGavin]
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Chris Seward <Cool@dcandy.demon.co.uk> writes:
I just downloaded your amiga doom thing and would like
to congratulate you on your successful port of this
great game. I only have a A1200/020cpu/8Mb Fast/710Mb HD
and a 33600bps modem and few other bits but none to
be used in a game like doom. Although as you would expect
I could only run it in second to smallest window it
all worked perfectly. I am soon to get a Blizzard 030/50Mhz
and will be eagarly awaiting it's arrival to play Amiga
Doom.
Thanks again for porting it!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steffen Flick <sflick@stud.uni-frankfurt.de> writes:
Your Port (I tested the others too) works perfectly on my machine (A4000
Cyberstorm060 Cybervision3D).
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Stephen Kroh <steve@ici.edu> writes:
I downloaded this game two days ago, and my wife and I haven't been
able to stop playing it! Bravo on an excellent job. We haven't had a
single bug, and gameplay has been very smooth.
For reference, here's my system:
An A4060T made by Quikpak, with 32 meg of RAM.
A PicassoIV video card.
I have prepareemul for Shapeshifter running at startup, Newicons,
QMouse, etc etc, and no problems at all! I just choose 320x240 24-bit
as my graphics mode at startup, and off I go. Pity the game doesn't
adjust to higher resolutions, but from what I hear that was a
limitation of the original.
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Martin_Dirk@t-online.de (Dirk Martin) writes:
Great,fantastic,unbelievable Doom on Amiga.
My second Christmas !!
Thangs Peter for convert this fantastic game.
It worgs good on my Amiga 4000 (040 25Mhz).
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Stephen Bucknall <Steve@brackenburgh.demon.co.uk> writes:
I would just like to say thanks a lot for all the hard work you must have put
in to port Doom over to the amiga.
I never thought I would see the day when I could play this [one of my
favourite games] on my humble amiga.
Doom v0.2 ran straight away on my set-up, A1200,030/50,8mb fast ram, the game
runs very fast and smooth with very little slowdown. Once again a big
Thank-You.
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Tim Cribbin <tim@cribbin.demon.co.uk> writes:
Congatulations - didn't they say it could never be done?
I downloaded ADoom 0.2 from the Aminet on Friday. Had a bit of trouble
getting the WAD file but eventually downloaded it from Marcus
Geelnard's (AmiDoom) site (other sites were very slow and kept
throwing me out before the end).
Anyway the game runs great, very smooth on about 3/4 full screen. I am
using an A1200 with 040/33 Apollo board and 8MB fast (AGA only). So
far I have had no crashes and it multitasks well with Workbench 3.0,
with no problems on exiting. Sound is a bit off and on (occasionally
samples are missed if several other sounds are already playing - is
this a limitation of the audio.device/Paula chip?). No music either.
Keep up the good work. Perhaps this example will be the inspiration
that the big software companies need to get back into the Amiga
market.
Long live Amiga!
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Benjamin Busche <bbusche@os-net.de> writes:
first Thanks for the Amiga Doom Port !!!
I have a Blizzard 1230-4 (68030) with 16 MB of Ram without ! GraphicCard. And
Doom works fine !
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jhaas@novia.net (John Haas) writes:
Thanks for your work on porting Doom to the Amiga. I've enjoyed playing
it! [...]
__
__ /// A1200, 3.1 OS, 10 Meg, 85Meg HD, SCSI+, '030/FPU/MMU.
\\\/// A600, 3.1 OS, 10 Meg, 540Meg HD, SCSI+, '030/FPU/MMU, HD Floppy.
\XX/ EZ135/28.8Modem/NEC210 CDRom/1960 Monitor. MailTo:jhaas@novia.net
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RaYzor <rayzor@northnet.org> writes:
My name is RaY, I live in NY USA .. and I just wanted to thank you for
ADoom. It runs well enough to play on my A3000 030/25 w/CybergraphX
and 10 Megs RAM with decent speed. [...]
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arnold@quicktel.com (Arnold Ford) writes:
i've play adoom on my 1200, and my 2000
the 1200 is just a 3.0 rom, has a 030 at 50 mhz, plays ok , good speed
on the 2000, it has a 030 at 25 mhz, works but slow, and lacking in colors,
but playable
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Chris Morris <Chris@xcntalien.force9.co.uk> writes:
I am running ADoom on an A4000 with a PicassoIV and a Cyberstorm060
and it runs just as quickly as it does on a PC! I was pleasantly
surprised.
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John Rorland <rorland@algonet.se> writes:
I want to thank you for your doom port
I have 4 doom ports (including yours).
And your Amiga port was the first one to work
and work good.
I remember when doom came out a couple of years ago,
many amiga owners bought PC's instead.
They said doom couldn't be ported to the amiga,
now thanks to ID software and you I can play doom on my AMIGA
at last.
Thanks!
I have an AMIGA 4000 030 with picasso IV and it works great.
Hope I can afford one of those Cyberstorm PPC with 060 someday soon
and it will be even better.
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Mario Cattaneo <cattaneo@studcs.uni-sb.de> writes:
great job you did (are doing) with this port of D**M for the Amiga.
On my A1230 with CV3D it's not the fastest (no wonder with this processor :)
but it quite as fast as AB3D2 was :-))
[...]
BTW, wouldn't a Alien Breed 3D 2-Level to doom.wad converter be great? This
way one would get AB3D2 on a gfxboard :)
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Moses Leslie <marmoset@ctr.net> writes:
Great work on the port, it worked out of the box on my
picassoIV/mkII060-66 a3000, which is more than I can say for some
commercial software.
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bamo@algonet.se (Bahman Moallem) writes:
I know that you can not use this letter to pay your bills or feed your
pet but still I wanted to show you my appreciation for your work and
your Doom port. It works excellent here (CS 060, CV64) right out of
the box. Thank you!
[...]
Please keep up the good work. Your port is BEST!
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"Roberto Patriarca" <R.Patriarca@flashnet.it> writes:
Hi Peter, this is just another message to say thanks. Thanks for giving us a
wonderful port of one of the best games ever made. It runs very smoothly and
without a crash on my A3000 equipped with a 66 MHz 68060 and a Retina Z3
graphics board, run by CGX v2.
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Martin Biro <mbiro.i3m@metronet.de> writes:
Gratulations,
I tested your Games ADoom and it works verry well with my
System configuration:
System: Amiga 1200T
Processor: CPU: 68060 / 50 MHz (ID $0430, Rev 5)
FPU: 68060 / 50 MHz
MMU: 68060
Chipset: AGA, RamSey None, Gary None, ChunkyPlanar None,
BattClock Found
Mother RAM: 32 Bit, 70 ns Access, Double CAS, 4x Bandwidth
Inst Cach: Enabled
Data Cache: Enabled
Superscalar
Branch Cache
Store Buffer
AmigaOS: 3.1 (= V40.68), SetPatch V43.6, ROM 512.0KB
Exec: V40.10
Workbench: V40.4
Graphics: CyberGraphX 3
Audio: AHI (v4.18)
NOTES: 68060.library v43.0, RTG v27.0 installed
You see it works fine, but some times it took a verry long time 2 Init the
DOOM
refresh daemon ... sometimes it's fast like hell ;)
[...]
I am now running AmiDoom v0.5 and it works well !
I've burnned the Game to a CD-R and it works faster on CD-ROM (24x)
than on my HD ;)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Stewart <gordstew@alphalink.com.au> writes:
Greetings from australia.
I have an amiga 2000 ecs denise, 1mb chip ram
with blizzard 2060 board,
36m ram,
200mb harddrive,
and 12x cdrom drive
Seems to work ok in all modes with wad1 downloaded from
http://www.pluk.com
Thanks for the effort
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alvaro Thompson <alvaro@enterprise.net> writes:
A couple of days I downloaded the AmiDoom v0.3 engine..... WHAT A
BRILLIANT ENGINE! I have played Doom in nearly every format available
(PC, Playstation, Saturn, Snes, 3DO, Jaguar), and I must say, that is
one BRILLIANT version of it!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Jeffery <sajeffer@cs.adelaide.edu.au> writes:
Thankyou very much for your work in porting Doom to the Amiga. I know
that it is nice to have your work appreciated, so I am letting you
know it IS appreciated..if the thousands of web site hits to download
it didn't already make that clear!
[...]
Keep up the great work and thanks again!
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Guillaume Ubbelohde <950947@mercure.umh.ac.be> writes:
I own a 060+picassoII and it works pretty smooth on full screen 320x200.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dirk Neubauer <neubauer@rz.uni-greifswald.de> writes:
Thanks for your work. Its great also on my machine. Works fine with P96.
The speed is normal, if the screen is not to big, with little margin.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Garry McCandless <garrymcc@enta.net> writes:
Great port mate your's is the fastest I've played : A1200 - 030,28Mhz
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"Paul Webb" <orion@thenet.co.uk> writes:
I've been playing ADoom for a few days now and I think it's just
great, so first I'd like to say thank you for your work, it's people
like you that keep the Amiga alive and kicking.
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emilio@mediterranea-net.it (Emilio Bova) writes:
Very good work.
It seem to be the fastest port on my 68060
(it runs really fast on AGA screens too) :-)
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Martin Johansson <martjo@algonet.se> writes:
One of the first DOOM recompilations for the Amiga that I tested was ADoom
and I was really amazed (I still am :) over the speed of it, in fact that
it was running on a custom 256 colour screen and multitasking!!
It runs very well on my A1200 040/40 AGA, and I run it in 3 sizes below
the full screen window to make it go smooth, although it's playable in
fullscreen too, but not as smooth.
Today I've tested several Amiga DOOM compilations, but ADoom is still,
without doubt the fastest one (at least on my 040/40 AGA) and the sound
effects work perfectly! For example AmigaDoom uses AHI for the sound and
it doesn't sound very good with annoying clicks every time a sound is
played, I don't know if this is caused by AHI or if the author(s) of
AmigaDoom has made some mistakes.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
JBB <starsky@club-internet.fr> writes:
Congratulations for your brilliant work on ADoom.
I think it is the best port of all...
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Jan Christiansen <janc@post7.tele.dk> writes:
your port of Doom for the Amiga is great!!!
ADoom v0.4 runs very nicely on my A1200 with 1230 50 MHz with 16 MB Fast
RAM.
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parzys john <parzys@club-internet.fr> writes:
a big thank for DOOM ;)
a 68060 c2p was cool :-D
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Peter Mattsson <pmats@algonet.se> writes:
I have now tested 4 different Amiga DOOM conversions based
on the DOOM source from ID. In my opinion your port is the best and most
serious, [...]
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Sascha Glade <lizard@cybercomm.nl> writes:
I really like ADoom and I hope you continue to improve it.
btw I found one little bug:
If you start ADoom from shell, it still reads the tooltypes of the icon,
which shouldn't happen IMHO.
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"Paterno' Tobia" <mc6346@mclink.it> writes:
Yeah! I must admit I'm flyin' High with latest ADoom0.5!
My plane is good ol' B2000 enchanced with Blizzard 2040/40 ERC, 2 Mb Chip
(MegaChip 2000), a mix of OCS/ECS, as I've (absolute) standard Denise.
So, you've guessed, I'm hailin'u from an ExtraHalfbrite screen, and going
fullscreen with statusbar, between 12 - 14 FPS, an enough acceptable rate.
With this the actual C2P routines make their job in max. 31 ms per frame.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aragorn Son of Arathorn <necropolis@oncomdis.on.ca> writes:
I recently downloaded your doom port ot the amiga, and thought I would
write to say.....AWSOME job... I really like it, and it even runs fast on my
computer....(Amgia 3000 picasso 96, with picasso II board, 16megs ram, in case
you care :>)
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John Girvin <girv@girvnet.demon.co.uk> writes:
thanks for ADoom :) Works a treat here on my new Blizzard 1260!
[...]
FYI, 0.5 flies on my B1260 fullscreen. Excellent!
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Sasha Coubrough <snakeskn@icarus.ihug.co.nz> writes:
GREAT CONVERSION!!! ; )
I have A1200 030/40Mhz 16Mb RAM 500Mb HD (Soon to have 200Mhz PPC/060!!!!)
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Craig Howard <C_HOWARD@LONDON.rage.co.uk> writes:
just a quick note to say well done on an excellent port of doom.
The music option is good and doesnt seem to slow the game down
much, if at all.
Its so kool it even runs under uae on my p266. I look forward to
even more speed ups in the game, and also if possible running doom in a
widow on my cgfx wb.
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fabsced@techplus.com (F. Shaun C Edwards) writes:
You have done it once again. Made the impossible, possible. MUSIC playing in
doom while keeping the FPS from dropping. WHOOHOO!!!! I run an A1200 with
060-50 & AGA. I have 40 megs ram so I load the whole doom setup that I wish to
run into ram, then start it. From what I heard I thought the screen fps would
slow-down from the music going, but they were wrong. The screen fps was just
as fast as hell with the music & Sound FX running. I don't know how you pull
off such awsome shit, but keep it up.
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Rick ijS Klaassen <ijs@maximum.demon.nl> writes:
Just again another email to send a big THANK YOU to you for making the best
doom port on Amiga! It runs very fast (486 DX2 level) on my stock a4k040 /
CV64/3d / CGFX3 / OS 3.1 and I've also seen it running on an a1230/50 at which
the speed was very impressive too. I've had absolutely NO problems at all
(except for some tiny red glitches sometimes, but they didn't bother me),
either running from workbench or without startup-sequence.
It made me very happy that the game runned so slick on our great Amiga, and
once again it shows what a simple Amiga can do with it's 'puny' MC680x0! And
again it shows the tremendous enthousiasm of Amiga users, the sourcecode's
only 10 days out and a PeeZee game is very succefully ported 5 times to our
so-called 'dead' platform, and loads of people are already playing it,
according to userhints.txt! Gr8 stuff, and it certainly will keep a few more
people from giving in to the 'dark side'. ;)
Please keep up the good work, and maybe somebody can add support for that nice
S3-Virge chip on that CV64/3d of mine?
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acdc_hacker@hotmail.com (MAX HEADROOM) writes:
A friend & I have been REALLY enjoying your version of DOOM for the
AMIGA. Yours is _the best_ so far. :) Yours even kicks DoomAttack &
AmiDooms ass. That may not be your objective (?). ;) Please continue the
excellent work. [...]
COMPUTER: A2000+040/MMU/FPU/28Mhz - Kickstart 40/Workbench 3.1
17MB RAM.Picasso2+CGX(24bit)/Exabyte 8200 DAT/2.2 Gigs HD Space
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"Thomas Danielsson" <thomda@Algonet.se> writes:
I want to thank you very much for a really nice conversion of Doom for Amiga.
Today i download ADoom0.5 from Aminet and now with music, that's exellent keep
it up man. On my A1200 030 40Mhz fpu 40Mhz 24Mb, HD 1.61 GB with AFS, Datic
Multisync monitior, CD- Rom 8x. It's really playable and load's fast to.
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StAn <efabre@hol.fr> writes:
Hey... I saw all your congrats mail in ADoom 0.5 archive; and I didn't
even thank you for the port !
So here it is: THANKS ! *<;-)
[...]
My config: A1200 OS3.0 AGA 68030 50 MHz 16Mo 60ns (with BlizzMagic)
BTW I'm surprised by all these people saying that they're playing with
a big window size with a 68030: I need the smallest window, or just
one step bigger, otherwise it's too much jerky and difficult to sight.
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Jason Frecknall <jay@blidworth.demon.co.uk> writes:
Adoom 0.5 is amazing! It's at least twice as fast as previous versions on my
060 (and it was fast then). I need never shrink the screen again! Bring on
the 640*480 full screen modes.
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Sascha Hoogen <shoogen@cww.de> writes:
ADoom is just brilliant, thank you very much for this perfect port!
It works like a charm on my A4000/060@50/CV64, I would never have
guessed that a Doom port for the Amiga could run that smoothly
(in fact, yours is the only one that does, the other ports don't
even come close).
On my A3000/040@25/Picasso-II it runs ok if I set the screen
to a smaller size. Finally I found a good reason to tune up
this machine! ;)
Programs like ADoom help to keep the Amiga alive, thank you very much!
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"David E. Golden" <goldens@iol.ie> writes:
Just a note to say well done on your
DOOM port - It flies along on my system
(Bliz. 1260 A1200 with FastExec, KS remapped, CopyMemQuicker patch)
Thank you.
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CHRISTOS COUCOULIDES <flatline@acropolis.net> writes:
Your Doom Version 0.5 in my 4000 MK II 68060 with Music ON
Full Screen AGA,
works great and also faster than 0.4.
All my PC Users friends now have epilipsia!!! :)
Thanks Peter You done a great work.
All works Perfect.
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Isak Schmidt <robert_b@algonet.se> writes:
Weeeha!!
I tested your port of Doom the other day and I was really stunned. I
had played AmigaDoom but your port was something special. Surely it
can't really beat Doom on PC when it comes to speed but it is cool to
be abel to play Doom on your favourite computer (Amiga :)!! [...]
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"Andy Gardner" <valkyrie@enterprise.net> writes:
First of all I'd like to congratulate you on your excellent ADoom game! It's
been a long time comming (Doom that is) and when it does arive it does so with
style and not a slow, buggy, dodgy conversion. Well done that man!
I'm using it on my 50Mhz 030 A1200 without any problems at all & have had no
problems since Version 0.2 onwards. Even though it seems I'm downloading a new
version every other day, they are well worth it as each version brings
something new and worth while with it.
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Lebrun Loïc <prod2463@eurobretagne.fr> writes:
your 0.5 version of Adoom is very very very very very very very very
very very very good. I love it on my 68060. and the music work fine !
I'don't know what can you add in the futur version !!! Your engine is
very exelent.
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George W Fairham <gwfairham@enterprise.net> writes:
WOW!
I have an A4000/060/050,Retina BLT Z3 running CyberGraphix and Adoom Runs VERY
fast.
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"Paolo D'Urso" <granata@dns.caribusiness.it> writes:
I'm playing with your ADoom... congratulations! So far it's the best Doom
emulator for our beloved Amiga. Thanks!! :)
Eheh no problems to answer me... i perfectly understand you (i'm too a
developer and i receive hundreds of email too) :) I just wanted to let you
know one more Amigan appreciated your work!
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Nick Tamm <nicktamm@nmol.com> writes:
Hello, I am just writing to thank you for making a wonderful port of Doom to
the Amiga. It works great on my computer, an Amiga 4000/040 with 12mb of ram
and 2 of chip.
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Steve Cutting <stevejc@c031.aone.net.au> writes:
Just downloaded your ADoom 0.5, it runs quite a lot smoother than the
last version on my 060/050/CV64 :-)
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"michel gilles" <mg@bruker.be> writes:
Congratulations for your DOOM port on the Amiga. Like many people,
i consider your port is the best of all i have seen for far.
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Frank Durban <fdurban@canberra.rz.fh-offenburg.de> writes:
I found your port of Doom on the web recently. And to me
it seems as this one is the fastest and most advanced port I have
seen by now. It runs bloody fast on my A1200T with 060 and
Picasso II Gfx Card. Thanx for this great piece of soft !!!!
I hope you'll keep on optimizing it (optimized 060 code ??, PPC-port ??).
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Benji <ben.cowdall@qatraining.com> writes:
Thanks for supporting the port of Doom on the AMiGA!
I have downloaded and played all versions so far (about 7 I think) of
Doom on the AMiGA and yours in certainly the fastest and most friendly!
I have an 040/40 with CyberVision 64/3D in my A4000. It flies along! The
only criticism is that when you run the -timedemo switch it slows right
down - is this something to do with sync to sound effects?
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"R.J.Lundie" <MBCX4RJL@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> writes:
Excellent conversion! I have only played the demo WAD but I was up
til 2 last night trying to find hidden rooms etc...
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CC601190@ntu.ac.uk (RD Young)
Just a quick note, to say good work!
Your version of doom seems to be the best on my 030/50 A1200.
I knew Doom would happen on the Amiga one day, I just never expected it
to be as good as you have made it.
Well done!
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Marius Lauritzen <Marius.Lauritzen@fix.no> writes:
I play Doom on my 68030-amiga..... Its playable as hell! :)
But.... Could be faster too.... :)
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Ruben van Staveren <ruben@luna.net> writes:
I have enjoyed your port for Doom, ADoom since v 0.5
(accidently, I thought I was downloading a new version of Trance's Amidoom
where rtgmaster crashes my machine)
It runs happily on my system and in coexistence with al my other patches
whereas for example AB3dII did not, and hey, ADoom is faster
which I did not hold for possible :)
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"Zoltan Szalay" <zoltan.szalay@tecton.sk> writes:
ADoom runs very fast on my machine.
My machine-> A4000, Cyberstorm MK II - 060/ 56Mhz, SCSI, CV3D, CGX69c
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Peteroo <Peteroo@aol.com> writes:
_Very_ nice work on ADoom -- on so many scores I wouldn't know where to start.
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Morten =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=F8rrisen?= <mtorrise@online.no> writes:
Just calling in from Norway to tell you that I love the job
you've done on ADoom. I've played it for
hours allready.
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K.B.K.@t-online.de (Klaus B. =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FCsche?=) writes:
your port of Doom does a great job on my A4000 with PowerUp 060/50 604e/200
and Merlin with CyberGfX.
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Andrew Deacon <andy@deakmann.demon.co.uk> writes:
Thanks again for Adoom i've been playing it for a couple of weeks
now and even bought the Doom Trilogy CD's.
I must say I'm amazed AGA can be this good.Adoom plays faster than any
native Doom clone i've come across.
I can't understand how Doom can be ported so quickly and reliably,
when the games industry seems to take months if not years to port
games between platforms.
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rake@suicide.turboland.de (Marc Spengemann) writes:
Hi, this is Rake, a german Amigauser... YOU ARE KEEPING THE AMIGA ALIVE!!!
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"James Gerard Brown" <jim-brown@mailexcite.com> writes:
Have been using your port of doom since version 0.3 on my a1200
030/28mhz,I`m very impressed. However, yesterday i finally purchased a
040/40mhz and tried ADoom again and was blown away ;) The speed was
incredible.
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"Jeroen T. Vermeulen" <jtv@xs4all.nl> writes:
thanks for porting Doom! It's not so much that I like the game, as much as
that I find it a vindication for the Amiga. It runs something like 27 fps
on my machine (with -nosound -nosfx -nomouse -forcedemo -timedemo demo3,
which strangely doesn't actually disable sound output) and at one point I
spotted it doing 35 fps.
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Tomasz Kepa <maryan@newton.zsmeie.torun.pl> writes:
I'm writing about your ADoom, which, as many people agreed, is superb.
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Benjamin Vernoux <bvernoux@inforoutes-ardeche.fr> writes:
Your Doom port is very very good it's the best i think.
[...]
Thanks for this incredible Port of Doom Bye
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Jacek =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F3=FBa=EFski?= <jacza@free.polbox.pl> writes:
Your work is great. If it appeared few years ago the fate of Amiga might
be different. Nevermind.
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cHAVEZ <chavez@pironet.de> writes:
Yeah, ya` doom port for amiga is incredible! i haven`t seen
a better one up to now! I`m actualy using V0.8 and it works fine,
perfectly and fassssaaaaast on my A1200 kicked with 060/50mhz! :)
*jo, peecee lamers, now we`ve got also a fast`n highrated game :)*
bye, and many thanx 2 u for giving us this piece of happyness :)))
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Steffen Flick <sflick@stud.uni-frankfurt.de> writes:
You Port is now the greatest - music simply rules - it is much more
atmosphere now :)
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Peter Thiessen <pkarlos@pangea.ca> writes:
Can I just say that the new music instruments are awesome. But the
newmap stuff is just amazing. Having the map overlayed on the game
screen (ala AB3DII) doesn't slow it down at all!
Yet more proof of what the Amiga can do over the PC, given the chance!
[...]
PS. ADoom runs pretty impresivly even with MYST (CGX/P96) version
running in the background!
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"Peltenburg, G.J.H." <gpeltenburg@wxs.nl> writes:
[...] I'm really impressed with the playability of ADoom on my
A4000/AGA/060(Cyberstorm MkII with a total of 74MB RAM).
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Marius Lauritzen <Marius.Lauritzen@fix.no> writes:
Btw. Adoom V0.8 runs almost completely fluidly with reduced gfx and full
screen on my Blizzard 1230-IV 50.
Really Excellent!!
[...]
Okey! For a couple of months ago.... We only played Doom on Playstation...
We did NOT think it was possible to run Doom on the Amiga.
MAY THE AMIGA LIVE FOREVER!
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Gerald Schnabel <Gerri@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de> writes:
Wow, ADoom is really great! It's the only Doom conversion that runs
without any errors on my AMIGA! Not fast but it works fine!
My configuration is: A500/ECS/020-33Mhz/882-33MHz/1MB-Chip/8MB-Fast
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"john aadnoey" <aadnoey@c2i.net> writes:
[...] Thanks for a very good Doom game.. Doom has always since it's
release been the game everyone had to compare their 3D games release
against. And at last it has reached the Amiga..
So thanks again for that..
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"R. Tracey Pickens" <tracey_pickens@hotmail.com> writes:
I love your Adoom series of Doom. I have been playing since
you came out with v0.2! Thank you very much for all your hard
work! [...]
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MISTROT Jean-Philippe <mod4g26@tgv.edu.ups-tlse.fr> writes:
[...] many congratualtions for your port of Doom, it s fantastic.
My config : 1200 + 060 AGA only => 23 fps cool.
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Gregers Jacobsen <amirogue@vip.cybercity.dk> writes:
Thanks for a great port of Doom, just goes to show how much ID-Software knew
when they said that there would never be
an Amiga version of Doom, now I hear that there is going to be a port of
Quake, more spit in their eye I think.
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Predator <ncart@ix.net.au> writes:
Congratulations on the fantastic game!!!!!!!.
I just wrote to let evry1 know that ADoom will run on an 020/881 with
6Mb RAM (2 Chip, 4 Fast) quite quick. I keep hearing all these stories
that ADoom runs really well on an 030 or higher, but I find it to be
quite fast even on my 020. The only problem is that sound FX don't
work
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Matthias Latocha <101.30219@germanynet.de> writes:
Many thanks for ADOOM !!!
It`s the best DOOM port on the Amiga .
ID say it`s impossible to port DOOM to the Amiga,
but you show ID how "easy" it is to make a Amiga Version of DOOM !
Keep on your good work !
Btw: I`ve got a 1 MB Agnus and a old Denise (OCS) and ADOOM works
perfect !
[...]
> What kind of CPU do you have?
I`ve got a 68020/40 cpu
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Olli-Pekka Kaikuaho <olli-p@finlink.net> writes:
I think your Doom-port is simply the best, and I use it a lot on my A1260
(works fine BTW)...
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perttu juntunen <olho@sci.fi> writes:
You have done very well!!!! :) on my
a1200+blizzard1230-IV+8mbfast+2mbchip+OS3.0 and Q-Drive it runs in 2nd
episode and 1level full screen!!! that's great
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David Birch <david_birch@frost3.demon.co.uk> writes:
Just d/l of 0.5 and 0.7 of your adoom editor. :-))
Brilliant is a word that springs to mind, plays just like the pc version.
The joypad support is good to allowing side steps opening of doors and a
options screen button.
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Dirk =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F6sche?= <dirk.loesche@metronet.de> writes:
This is the best Doom Port of the Amiga!!!!!
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Teemu =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= <wizor@xgw.fi> writes:
I just downloaded ADoom0.8 yesterday and i also took the Doom2.wad.
After little tuning up i got it working and well it was as fast as i
expected it to be on MY machine. Not playable, but working and looked
awfull too and was silent (-nosfx). Here's my hardware list:
Amiga 500 w/ ECS Agnus / OCS Denice / 1Mb CHIP / OS3.1 ROM
68030(mmu) 14Mhz and 68882 25Mhz with 4Mb of 32bit fastram onboard.
Supra SCSI-II controller with 2MB 16bit "fastram" and
540MB Quantum Lightning / Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM / IOMega 100Mb ZIP Drive
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david.martinez@dret.upf.es writes:
I only would like to thank you for doing such a geat work with your port
of Doom. It litterally flies on my 060 A1200 AGA!!! (all the game runs
between 20-30 fps in high detail mode, two steps away from the maxsize).
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Ezequiel Partida <epartida@telnor.net> writes:
Thanks Peter for Adoom, I personaly don't play games a lot, I'm just too
desperate or unpatient and don't like to try and try to get in to a new game
level, but since I started playing ADoom everything just changed, now I play
Adoom every minute I can and I just keep trying and trying until I get in to
the next level, Adoom it's GREAT!.
Adoom works great on my A3000 25mhz, I hope that you add FPU support to make
it even faster, I does feel a little slower when I use Doom2.wad but it's
playable alright. :)
Like we say in Mexico, Adoom está Chingòncisimo. :)
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Mikko Liimatainen <mikkol@norssi.oulu.fi> writes:
I downloaded ADoom last Friday...it REALLY rocks. thanks.
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Andy <jmalcolm@ifb.co.uk> writes:
congratulations on your excellant ADoom port I tried also
DoomAttack which seemed to be marginally faster but crashed.
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"Frederic Steinfels" <fst@active.ch> writes:
ADoom is very cool. It's the only doom clone that runs on my machine
without crashing while starting up.
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inelec@sa.omnes.net (tgm) writes:
I recently downloaded ADoom from Aminet and i'm absolutly deligted
with this amazing game on the Amiga. I feel it runs much better than
the PC counterpart (BUAG).
[...]
Thank you very much for your effort in porting this 'trascendental'
game, who everybody said, was impossible to be run on an Amiga.
Obviously, they were wrong !
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Ricardo Jorge Lopes Cabete <mop23395@mail.telepac.pt> writes:
I am writing to you to congratulate on your fantastic Doom port. I have a
A4000/040, 18Mbs Ram, std AGA and it runs without any problem at all.
I was also unable to find any bug :-)
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OTHER DEVELOPERS ASSOCIATED WITH ADOOM
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People who said they successfully compiled ADoom from all that was in the
archive:
Gabriele Greco <ggreco@iol.it>
Matthew Gregan <kinetik@caverock.net.nz>
Danny Robinson <dannyr@pangea.ca>
Aki M Laukkanen <amlaukka@cc.helsinki.fi>
Joseph Fenton <jlfenton@ctaz.com> (for PPC)
"Frank Wille" <frank@phoenix.owl.de> (for PPC --- VDoomPPC)
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People who said they tried to compile ADoom and had problems:
magicsn@birdland.es.bawue.de (Steffen Haeuser)
Sebastian Schlesinger <s.sch@hof.baynet.de> (for PPC PowerUp)
Antel@pub.osf.lt (Andrej Teleshov)
Martin Berard <martin.berard@drev.dnd.ca> (for PPC)
Tim Boescke <boescke@ibm.net>
"Jeroen T. Vermeulen" <jtv@xs4all.nl>
Marius Lauritzen <Marius.Lauritzen@fix.no>
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People who sent me source code:
Gabriele Greco <ggreco@iol.it> (CD32 joypad)
j.selck@flensburg.netsurf.de (DrawColumn(), DrawSpan(), C2P merge)
Aki M Laukkanen <amlaukka@cc.helsinki.fi> (draw, fixed-pt, memcpy, C2P)
Juergen Fischer <fischerj@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> (C2P, draw)
Philipp Grosswiler <trance@master.echo.ch> (AHI interface)
Henrik Mattsson <asparagus@mail.bip.net> (C2P)
Joseph Fenton <jlfenton@ctaz.com> (MUS-player)
Tim Boescke <boescke@ibm.net> (draw, fixed-pt, from Mac DOOM)
Cyril Deble <Cyril.Deble@inforoute.cgs.fr> (rotatemap, maponhu, 640x200)
"Jeroen T. Vermeulen" <jtv@xs4all.nl> (patches for I_SetPalette)
"G.J. Peltenburg" <gpeltenburg@wxs.nl> (IPX lib support)
Danny Robinson <dannyr@pangea.ca> (BSP algorithm optimisations)
"Laszlo (Phoenix) Torok" <torokl@alpha.dfmk.hu> (P96 PIP example code)
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THE COMPLICATED SUBJECT OF WHICH WADS WORK
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Arto Huusko <arto.huusko@pp.qnet.fi> writes:
As a note: I tried the WAD from Ultimate Doom and it worked although
the fourth episode was not visible and no demo was played... the game
just exited and complained something about HELP2 (sorry but I did not
write it up). If one was fast enough the game could be entered.
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Sinan Gurkan <sinan2@geocities.com> writes:
Also when I try a registered DOOM WAD file..it doesn`t
run..I`m sending you the log file of Adoom when I try
to run Registered Doom..
ADoom Log File:
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ADoom 0.1 (29.12.97)
DOOM Registered Startup v1.10
[...]
ST_Init: Init status bar.
Error: W_GetNumForName: STBAR not found!
I_ShutdownSound()
I_ShutdownMusic()
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mad@mail.cosmos.it (Guido Falsi) writes:
Now, I'm writing you becouse I've tried adoom with the 10Mb commercial
wad(taken from the original dischettes...) and It does not work: first he
complains that the demo is from another version, and second when I select the
game the game quits...
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"Jason Watson" <ilya@enterprise.net> writes:
I am using v1.9 of both Doom1.wad (shareware) and Doom2.wad
(commercial) without trouble on my setup. The only problem I have so
far encountered is the one you have found yourself, mainly that ADoom
guru's occationally when quiting.
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J.Urbanek@t-online.de (Juergen Urbanek) writes:
Yesterday I became The Original DOOM for the PC and ADOOM Breaks with the
Message :
[...]
Error: W_GetNumForName: HELP2 not found!
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stefano <mc7509@mclink.it> writes:
hello i'm stefano from italia, many many compliments for your amiga porting
of doom(0.2). i have tested on my a1200 with blizzard 1240t (40mhz) and
32mb of fast ram and work fine. i have tested my old wads for the first
doom pc version but don't work.
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schon <schon@iname.com> writes:
the Doom.wad (shareware) that you mentioned in the readme doesn't work
because it's from Doom1.. and the 'early' WADs you talk about probably have
the same problem, they're likely for Doom1 and not Doom2 (the shareware WAD
for Doom2 works just fine, as does any standard 'Doom2' PWAD)
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"Rask Ingemann Lambertsen" <rask@kampsax.k-net.dk> writes:
Btw, I found the DOOM2.WAD from Doom 2. Not only does it work fine with
ADoom, it is also has much better gameplay than the unregistered DOOM1.WAD.
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"Ben 'bean' Cass" <bean@ideal.net.au> writes:
Also, I have a Full Doom I WAD which appears to be from the Ultimate
Doom package and although it loads up fine whenever I go to the second
information screen (the one /after/ the screen which shows the key
layout) the game exists and says 'HELP2 not found' or something like
that. Apparently it works fine on Amiga Doom. Any idea what could be
wrong??
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Steve Clack <steeevc@ndirect.co.uk> writes:
Ok, i'm using the shareware doom 1 wad (4196020 bytes) and Adoom comes
up with the error:
P_Init: Init Playloop state.
Error: R_TextureNumForName: SW1BLUE not found
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stefano <mc7509@mclink.it> writes:
i have tested some doom2 wad but don't work but isn't a problem your
porting is really great
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"Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk> writes:
also, no other wads seem to work. I've tried 5 other, but none work.
Some even have 2 files eg. hell-gfx.wad and hell-snd.wad ?????
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Adam Sibley <adamie@enterprise.net> writes:
i've tried all the commercial doom wad files on my a1200 030/882 18mb 3.1 and
they work perfectly...
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Steve Clack <steeevc@ndirect.co.uk> writes:
> One person told me that any "Doom2 PWAD" works fine.
Thanks :o) I got this one and it works fine, the mac version would
have worked ok but it got called DOOM.WAD instead of DOOM1.WAD and
made ADoom/etc mess up :o( maybe you could make a note of that in the
docs :o) oh and i hear someone
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Nicholas Piper <pcomm@inorbit.com> writes:
All DOOMS require a WAD, this contains all the game information,
like sounds, graphics, level details etc. etc. If you don't
want to pay for one, use the Shareware WAD from the original
Shareware DOOM. This is availible at
http://www.dtrance.ch/doom/download/Doom-[Shareware].lzx
and
http://www.pluk.com/
I think. This is the ONLY WAD you can use without paying. If you
want to use all the hundreds of custom WADS and 3rd party levels
(say from ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/) you need the commercial
WAD. This contains loads of more information that these
custom 3rd party WADS don't contain but the game needs. You
can get this WAD by buying the Doom game and copying it over
to your Adoom/AmiDoom directory. You can then use them
by doing "Adoom -file custom.wad" etc.
You are NOT paying for ADoom or AmiDoom, but for the commercial
WAD. Sure, ID software gave the source away, but they still
want money :-)) Its only about 9.99 UKP, so go and buy it... maybe
it'll encourage ID to give us the source to more games :-)
When you add a custom.wad via -file, it replaces one or more
of the levels. The level and episode should be given in the .txt
file that belongs to the WAD. E2L3 would mean that the wad replaces
Level 3 on episode 2. Therefore, to play that new level, you need
to play the game until you get to level 3, after selecting episode
2. (The second one on the list....) OR you can jump to that section
by typing in IDCLEV23. To jump to E1L3 it would be IDCLEV13, etc.
Sometimes you might see E3M3, but it means the same thing, they
just used the word mission, instead of level I guess :-)
Alternatively, you can warp straight to the level, by using
the command line, =
adoom -file whatever.wad -devparm -warp 2 5 -skill <skill number>
Where <skill number> is in the range 1 to 5.
[...]
Questions Then (the FAQ bit)
----------------------------
Q. "Error: R_TextureNumForName: SW1BLUE not found"
What does this mean ?
A.
You have named the shareware WAD as doom.wad, it should
be named as doom1.wad. I'm using doom1.wad, which is
4196020 bytes. If yours is that size, call it doom1.wad,
remove all the other wads, and off you go :-)
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Thomas Szedlak <TSzedlak@gmx.de> writes:
1. The WAD-files of Doom 1 Shareware and Doom 2 work fine, but not the
WAD-file of Doom 1 Registered. Nearly the end of the startup, there are
following messages:
HU_Init: Setting up heads up display.
ST_Init: Init status bar.
Error: W_GetNumForName: STBAR not found!
I_ShutdownSound()
I_ShutdownMusic()
ADoom failed returncode 20
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J.Urbanek@t-online.de (Juergen Urbanek) writes:
PS: Here my Config and my test WAD files (if you interestet for)
A4000/MKII '060/CV64/CGFX2/74MB
[these work, Peter McGavin]
Doom.wad 12408292 bytes
Doom2.wad 14612688 bytes
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mcbalch@eskimo.com (Mike Balch) writes:
Ultimate Doom works just fine as the wad file
for ADoom.
People that are using the Ultimate Doom wad file
with ADoom should remane their wad file to
doomu.wad. This allows them access to the special
fourth Episode that was provided as part of
Ultimate Doom.
This is suggested in the changelog file that
was part of the doom source archive from Id
Software. I tried it and it works.
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Arto Huusko <arto.huusko@pp.qnet.fi> writes:
You asked in Adoom.readme wheter Ultimate DOOM WAD works.
Well it does just well. All episodes work fine and nice.
The name for the file must be doomu.wad though to get
the Thy Flesh Consumed episode available.
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krash@pcug.org.au (Kresimir Rogic) writes:
Great to see Doom On the Amiga. I have used Regisstered Doom, Doom II
and Final Doom (Both "The Plutonium Experiment" and "Evilution") and
they all work quite well (although Final Doom seems a wee bit slowish
compared to the rest).
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"Anders Dalshov" <dalshov@online.no> writes:
You wonder if the doom2.wad and the ultimate doom wad file works? Oh yeah! No
problem what so ever. I'm using the doom2.wad and the ultimate doom wad. v1.9
I believe. Both wads runs _very_ nice in fullscreen on 060 + CGFX.
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J.Urbanek@t-online.de (Juergen Urbanek) writes:
In "DOOM 2: Hello on earth v1.10" in Level 7:Dead simple - I can't end
the level because the wall comes up not down ?! Whith an cheat I can
play level 8 and so on....
[...]
>It looks like you're the first person other than me to find the problem
>with "Dead Simple" in DOOM 2 v1.10. I haven't got a clue what the problem
>is yet. I suspect the original Linux version has the same bug.
I don't think so. The Other Doom-Port works...
The Wall moves to much up, and the Spiders-Doors have to open after the two
big Monsters are dead...
Could this help you ?!
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Chris Morris <Chris@xcntalien.force9.co.uk> writes:
[...] I have just gone and bought the commercial versions of DOOM I
and II to try. They both worked sucessfully, although DOOM I seemed to
have a problem with a missing HELP2 - persumably this is named
differently in the WAD file than it is expecting in the source file.
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"Adam Atkinson" <ghira@mistral.co.uk> writes:
>I think -file is for third-party WADs, like axe8.wad, satan666.wad, etc.
>It doesn't work for selecting between standard WADs. Also, -file doesn't
>work at all unless there is a standard *registered* WAD also in the same
>directory.
yep, I have one copy of adoom with the registered doom1 wad and another
with the registered doom2 wad
I've been trying to use WADs from web pages and the third CD in the doom
box. No apparent luck so far.
[...]
>I think -file is for third-party WADs, like axe8.wad, satan666.wad, etc.
>It doesn't work for selecting between standard WADs. Also, -file doesn't
>work at all unless there is a standard *registered* WAD also in the same
>directory.
Ok, I've worked it out. I didn't realise WADs replaced individual levels.
turned out the wads I was trying to play DIDN'T replace level 1, so of
course I was seeing the normal level 1. Hmm...
if I -file a wad that replaces level 1, all is well. except that it's very
hard :-)
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Moses Leslie <marmoset@ctr.net> writes:
[...] many custom wads don't work for me if I run with a normal
startup-sequence, etc, but they do from a minimal one. I haven't tracked
down the culprit, but it's not any of the normal things like mcx. My
minimal startup included picasso96 drivers and cpu060, so those things are
fine :) I'm not too concerned about it, but if I track it down I'll let
you know.
[...]
Ok, I figured out what the problem was, and I have no idea why it would do
this, but it's "prepareemul" from shapeshifter that's causing the problem
with the custom wads for me. It could be because of my 060, it could have
some other root cause, but getting rid of it makes custom wads work, and
putting it back in makes it crash on "ST_Init: Init status bar". Probably
not a particulary useful bug report, but something to put in a faq or
something, maybe ;)
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Adam Carrano <adamca@aix.pacwan.net> writes:
I use ADoom with WADs from a Mac version without any problem
Shareware version:Doom1.WAD 4.1Mo
Ultimade Doom: Doom.WAD12Mo I renamed it to DoomU.WAD
Doom II:Doom2.WAD14Mo
Addictive DeathMatch:addictiv.wad1.5Mo needs doom2.wad
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Kees Veling <kees@captainvideo.nl> writes:
I have copied my registered mac doom2 wad to my amiga and it works! It even
plays WADs i made myself with hellmaker(a mac wadbuilder util)!
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Steven Jeffery <sajeffer@cs.adelaide.edu.au> writes:
BTW I am using Ultimate Doom WAD and it works fine except you don't
get to choose the 4th episode. Could this be fixed at all?
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zrx.oms@sci.fi Wed Jan 7 21:16:19 1998 writes:
I've been playing with the Doom1.WAD from MACs shareware version and
it works fine... And I've also managed to get my hands on to one of
the additional parts in Doom II "The Plutonia Experiment",
Plutonia.WAD, and after 18 levels out of 35 it's still working fine
(Altought the Plutonia version runs a bit slow 'coz it does have a bit
larger levels than Doom I)...
[...]
Tested so far:
- Shareware Doom (DOOM1.WAD), works fully.
- Ultimate Doom (DOOMU.WAD), works fully.
- Doom II: Hell On Earth (DOOM2.WAD), works fully.
- Doom II: The Plutonia Experiment (PLUTONIA.WAD), works fully.
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sCRAM <scram@innocent.com> writes:
Big Greets from Russia!
This is a report about working WAD's for ya ADoom v0.2 & 0.3
Ok,here we go...
Ultimate Doom Regged - works fine
Doom2 Regged - ok
FinalDoom1 ( TNT.WAD 18mb ) - ok
FinalDoom2 (PLUTONIA.WAD 18mb ) - ok
Note: all files taken from PC cd's
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BMartin@tnet.cz (Bren Martin) writes:
I try WAD HEXEN.WAD and I only see:
Error: R_TextureNumForName: SW1BRCOM not found
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Garry McCandless <garrymcc@enta.net> writes:
I have a copy of Doom2's WAD file (Got a friend with a PC).
When I run Adoom using the shareware WAD file then save the game. Then
change to the Doom2 WAD file and load the same saved game Adoom quit's
with the following error.
Error:P_UnarchiveSpecails: Unknown tclass 16 in savegame.
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DELPY Jean-Jacques <jdelpy@hol.fr> writes:
please, help me/...
[...]
adoom -forcedemo
DOOM Registered Startup v1.10 =
[...]
Error: W_GetNumForName: STBAR not found!
I_ShutdownSound()
I_ShutdownMusic()
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Matteo Rocco <xs@xnet.it> writes:
I have just downloaded the original DOOM II WAD to play a Pwad made
by a friend...
Using ADOOM 0.4 the DOOM2.WAD runs perfectly on my 030 50Mhz but I have to
have 2000 buffers in my device...when I try to play my Pwad there occurs an
error... it perfectly loads refresh,then I chose
NEW GAME,then one of the violence mode,bit after a while it says:
ERROR: W_CacheLumpNum:2558669 >= numlumps
AARRGHH!! WHY?? do you need the WAD file??
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Jan Christiansen <janc@post7.tele.dk> writes:
I have tried two WADS with ADoom at this time, both from the shareware
Doom DOS-PC version. The WAD from version 1.2 doesn't work. The game
loads, but when the episode and difficulty level have been selected, the
game stops and returns to the OS.
The WAD from version 1.666 does work.
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Joseph Fenton <jlfenton@ctaz.com> writes:
IWADs are the main WAD files; PWADs are patch wad files. If you check
the head of a wad file you will see 'IWAD' or 'PWAD'. It's how DOOM
tells whether or not a patch wad file is really a patch wad file.
You assume the IWAD is in the same directory as ADoom unless you
specify a patch wad with the -file switch; if you specify -file,
you assume the IWAD is in the same directory as the patch wad.
You need the ability to set where the IWAD is and where the PWAD(s)
are independent of each other or ADoom. Mike thinks you should
keep a path for EACH patch wad, but at least have the ability to
do seperate paths for the IWAD, the PWAD(s), and ADoom.
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Sasha Coubrough <snakeskn@icarus.ihug.co.nz> writes:
Just tested Doom Attack which is definitely faster (A bit more coding
optimization I suppose) but very buggy. Low Res full screen works fast but is
a bit crap since hi res works fine on ADOOM and at quite a good speed. Havn't
had any trouble getting any of
the conversions to Run but ADOOM seems the best. However MORE OPTIMIZATION for
the AMIGA please!!!
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"Gary Bryant" <gary@bryant.u-net.com> writes:
[...] after episode 1 of Doom. You get the text
screen to try the next episodes. The ESC key, fire or space keys don't
work. Pressing return crashes the game. Both these crashes occured
under 0.4 as well.
In the log file generated by the game, the error message is:
Error: W_GetNumForName: HELP2 not found. Both crashes chuck me back to
workbench.
I'm using the DOOM.WAD file from the latest registered version of
Doom. (Ultimate Doom)
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fabsced@techplus.com (F. Shaun C Edwards)writes:
The -file command even works on ALL external WAD files I have for
Doom.
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Harry Sintonen <sintonen@jyu.fi> writes:
I've tested some wad files with ADoom (not with others, but I think all
the ports use same code for wads...). Anyways, I've succesfully played
Final Doom WADs (plutonia.wad and tnt.wad). I also tried doom.wad of MAC
doom 1 demo and that wad does NOT work (at least with ADoom, and btw it's
not the same file as in doom1wad.lha).
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DELPY Jean-Jacques <jdelpy@hol.fr> writes:
[...] the previous problem was in fact that i had a latest too
recent version of doom2 commercial, and this one was not supported by doom
linux or adoom. i tested adoom (at least ) with a casual doom.wad and it
worked well...
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StAn <efabre@hol.fr> writes:
Strange, all the wads I tested except doom2 reg and the one at www.pluk.com
do not work:
-msdos doom 1 v1.666 shareware
-msdos doom 1 v1.9 shareware
-msdos doom 1 v1.95 complete
msdos doom2 v1.666 wad work ok, except of course the "Dead Simple" level.
Need to use the IDCLIP trick to get to the exit...
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Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6sterberg?= <drkoss@algonet.se>
Doom 1 registered wad doesn't seem to work with ADoom 0.5,
and ADoom seems to lack the "jump" function required in some DoomII levels.
DoomII registered wad otherwise runs just fine though.
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"John Herzfeld" <johnh@user1.channel1.com> writes:
Adoom rocks. I really like it.
I like it so much I bought a registered version of Doom.
Ultimate doom
That wad works fine, but there is one thing weird about it.
On my WIN95 machine I get a choice of 4 episodes, while
on the Amiga I only get 3. (I am missing "Thy Flesh Consumed").
All 3 episodes work, so that's cool.
[...]
>Try renaming the Ultimate DOOM WAD to doomu.wad . Several people said
>that make the 4th episode visible.
That did it. Thanks!
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jean-philippe.humbert@ramses.fdn.org (Jean-Philippe Humbert) writes:
I must finished the ultimate Doom :-) Great job, it works well with my
A4000/040 and AGA chipset. Maybe you could ask money to ID Software
or Phase 5 because i bought Doom I & II and think to buy a Picasso IV.
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Nick Tamm <nicktamm@nmol.com> writes:
I am using the DOOM2/Ultimate Doom Wads, and they work fine,
along with nearly every other extra wad I come across.
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Stephen Webber <s.g.webber@strath.ac.uk> writes:
I tried the WAD file from Ultimate Doom, renaming it has Doom1.WAD, and
I still got the message telling me that Doom was shareware, and that was
about all as it wouldn't initialise any further. I'll try renaming it
to Doomu.WAD to see if this makes a difference. Otherwise, I can't seem
to find a copy of the original Doom anywhere over here, with Ultimate
Doom being the oldest version still around.
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Alexander Niven-Jenkins <anj@cremlinsoftware.org> writes:
[...] how do you get the registered doom 1 wad working with ADoom, um,
I have version 1.2 do I need a newer version? Because I can get the
menu up but I can not actually play any level?
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"Lorens Johansson" <lorensjohansson@hotmail.com> writes:
BTW: DOOM2.WAD works...
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"Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk> writes:
also, by renaming the registered ultimate doom wad to doomu.wad ,
gives you all 4 chapters
although it doesn't allow me to use all the PD wads :(( it tells me
the wad has been modified?? (i brought it by the way, not pirated)
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^_^ <bitbrker@ionet.net> (Tm2) writes:
I also tried a complex remake of MAP01 I make on the PC with WinDeu called
"NewTest.wad". On my 486, it is rather sluggish because I used LOTS of deep
areas, steps, and etc. ADoom renders it easily and much faster than my 486
does. Of course, to my Amiga's credit it has about 10MB of RAM while my PC
had 7MB+640k RAM.
But still, a 486DX2-50MHz should be a LOT faster than an 030-50MHz,
shouldn't it? =)
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"Ben 'bean' Cass" <bean@ideal.net.au> writes:
[...] I mentioned a problem a while ago with 'HELP2 NOT FOUND' coming up when I
went to the second help screen thing in Doom. I have renamed the wad I had
from DOOM.WAD to DOOMU.WAD and the problem is gone. Plus I have that other
chapter. :) You may want to mention that in a FAQ if you do an official one in
the future...
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Martin Nielsen <mntly@post6.tele.dk>
When I try to play demo files (extension LMP) I use the argument:
-playdemo <filename> (in this example "-playdemo e1-uv")
and in the startup ADoom says both "Playing demo e1-uv.lmp" and
"adding e1-uv.lmp", but when it's about to start the game (right
after setting up the screenmode) it says:
Error: W_GetNumForName: e1-uv not found!
Could it be becouse it's missing ".lmp" in the last case? Or is
trying to look in the WAD file for the LMP file?
PM> Try using the -forcedemo option as well.
No difference with or without.
I tried another LMP file named "e1m4.lmp" and this time it didn't
come up with the errormessage, but when it started playing the
demo everything went crazy... Pause ON, Pause OFF, Screen turns
red... everything goes mayhem.. this can't possibly be what the
demo was supposed to look like :)
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Valouch Petr <ValouchP@TESCOSW.CZ> writes:
I have some main WADs (for now DOOM2.WAD, DOOMU.WAD, TNT.WAD and
PLUTONIA.WAD) + some addition WADs whith improve some of them. With
current state you look for one of this `complete` WAD (in aplhabetical
order) and than add WADs specified by -file or FILE TOOLTYPE. What I
want is to have possibility to tell ADoom exactly whith WADs I want to
start. By this be done any1 can have all WADs in one dir together with
exe and f.e. from icon or by script start WADs he/she (? maybe) wants.
Now there are two posibilities: before start rename all completre WADs
except that one I want to run or have dirs with complete WADs and their
additions with exe in each dir.
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Peteroo <Peteroo@aol.com> writes:
Just FYI, I've found it works with all the Dooms, but not with the Raven games
(Heretic, et al.) or Strife. Will you ultimately support those as well?
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K.B.K.@t-online.de (Klaus B. =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FCsche?=) writes:
I want to report that I found a working wad named 'Villa'. I also found that
the sound.wad's work most of the time, while the level.wad's don't.
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"James Gerard Brown" <jim-brown@mailexcite.com> writes:
[...] for the first time ever I have bought a PC game, much to the
amusement of my friends. In Britain a software chain is selling a Doom
pack comprising of three CD`s - Ultimate Doom, Doom II and Maximum
Doom for 20 UK pounds. Maximum Doom has About 2000 Wads, so far every
wad I have tried has worked.
I was originally using the Mac shareware wad, this gave no problems
until ADoom 0.4, when I connected my old CD32 joypad, occassionally if
a keyboard button was pressed, the workbench screen would be shown and
a message in the ADoom console would say wrong version number. This
seems to be cured when using the registered version. as I have not
seen it for a while.
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Mikko Liimatainen <mikkol@norssi.oulu.fi> writes:
btw: Doom 1 regged wad v1.10 doesn't work, complains somthing about
STBAR...but doom 2 regged works fine. i have A1200/060/50Mhz/16MB/14'VGA
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K.B.K.@t-online.de (Klaus B. =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FCsche?=) writes:
with some custom Doom2.wads I get a savegame buffer overrun if I try to save
the game.
An example for the buffer overrun is »windsor.wad« or »wstower2«.
Another strange thing is the message:
»Error: R_InitSprites: Sprite TROO : A : 1 has two lumps mapped to it«
which comes up when starting the »zombies.wad«.
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Alvaro Thompson <alvaro@enterprise.net> writes:
Also, I noticed how loooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg
it took for the game to load the Doom II WAD file. It was also pretty
slow when loading each level etc. I imagine this is because of the
massive file size. Maybe you could overcome this? Perhaps you could
make some small utility that will somehow split one massive WAD file
into several small ones, therefore taking less time to load in the
game.
I noticed that every time a new gfx appears, it has to be loaded from
the HD, eg an explosion, a new kind of enemy, etc, which produces a
very nasty jerking. Is there anyway that you could pre-load all of
these gfx into the game, before the game is going? This would be
excellent!
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Arto Huusko <arto.huusko@pp.qnet.fi> writes:
Commenting mail from Peter McGavin (P.McGavin@irl.cri.nz):
> >Startup from the prompt to the title screen takes about six minutes.
> >Same with the AmiDoom too, though. This might however result from
> >using the "real" WADs whose size is 12-14 Mb I realised.
> Blimey, it takes about 10 seconds here, even with the big WADs. How
> fast is your hard disk?
> I do "AddBuffers MYDISK: 500". Maybe that makes the difference.
Yeah, that fixed it.
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Henrik Mattsson <asparagus@mail.bip.net> writes:
btw, a diskbuffer of 330 speeds up the loading a great deal, without
sacrificing too much memory.
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savel@kaunas.omnitel.net (Levas) writes:
I reccommend DynamiCache , by Christopher A. Wolf. It was included in my
Blizzard1230 SCSI kit install disk.
(Hardware 68030&68882 @50MHz, 16MB Fast RAM, old SCSI HD, software: ixemul FP
version)
Time to load demo wad from www.pluk.com:
without cache: 73 sec. Free mem 7.8M
with cache: 11 sec. Free mem 6.7M (max cache mem used 6144K)
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dhomas trenn <dhomas@youngmonkey.ca> writes:
I re-read your docs after I sent the message and tried it with buffers
of 1000... what a difference. It started in about 10 seconds, compared
to 10 minutes. Amazing difference!
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"Zoltan Szalay" <zoltan.szalay@tecton.sk> writes:
Speed Tip - try use AFS filesystem for patition with Doom.WAD. This =
filesystem (AFS/PFS) is 10x faster as FFS for loading small data blocks =
(512bytes long).
This trick also works with shapeshifter/fusion/pc filedisks. With AFS =
2.4 is speed of filedisk EQUAL to native partition.=20
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Olivier Fabre <efabre@hol.fr> writes:
I have made a script to automagically increase disk buffers before
launching ADoom:
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set buf `addbuffers work:`
set buf `echo "$buf" first=11 len=3`
set dif `eval 450-$buf`
if $dif gt 0 val
addbuffers work: $dif
endif
stack 8192
adoom
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Oh, I think the output of addbuffers is localized, so "first=11" may have to be
changed to another value, depending on the language..
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Stefan Kessler <kessler@stud.hs-wismar.de> writes:
just want to tell you, that adoom is great on my 1260 50 8mb ram. for
the first time i had a little problem with the loadingtime from my
seagate hd (2 mb/s) but if you insert something like this:
addbuffers dh1: 470
adoom
addbuffers dh1: -470
or even more it will fly (avrg: 20fps) :))))...and i don't use fastexec
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DJNick <djnick@marsh.co.yu> writes:
I copied PeeCee's DOOMII.wad
and it runs fantastic on my 030/50/16MB :) And 10X a lot for
"addbuffers mydisk: 800" tip! Didn't know it can SPEED UP
loading my ADoomII from 10 min to 15 SEC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :))
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Jason Frecknall <jay@blidworth.demon.co.uk> writes:
Any chance of you changing the fire key (CTRL)? I edited the .doomrc
file and changed fire to right alt (Ascii=184), so it's the same as on
the PC, and sidestep to the ctrl key (just to move it out of the way
for now) and strangely both Right Alt and Right Amiga fire your
weapon. Do you plan to change the keys to a more Amiga friendly
arrangement? There might be a problem with Alt and Amiga being used
together if you can get them working independantly since this
combination is for keyboard control of the mouse pointer.
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Jason Frecknall <jay@blidworth.demon.co.uk> writes:
The key CTRl maps to varies.
Mine is Insert and a friends is caps lock or num lock.
As mentioned in my previous mail Right Alt and Amiga both map to the same
ascii value, but I have since noticed that with Trance's port this doesn't
happen.
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John Rorland <rorland@algonet.se> writes:
Joypad support works great, It makes a huge difference in playability
it's very easy to dodge enemy fire now.
The sidestep/strafe function works good and is very approprietly placed on
the upper cd 32 button's, Thanks.
I can also use the cd 32 pause/play button to get to the options menu and
use the blue button for opening doors(red for fire).
The green and yellow buttons doesn't seem to do anything so i guess you
haven't put any function's there yet (or have I missed something?).
It's brilliant with joypadsupport, if youre thinking of putting any
function's on the remaining two buttons consider putting the automap
function on one of them since that would be very useful as well.
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Adam Carrano <adamca@aix.pacwan.net> writes:
A very easy solution to change the keys:
Just edit the ".doomrc" file.
Try mine it is attached at this email,
you can open the doors with right-amiga key or right-alt key
on a Qwerty keyboardStrafe with , and / Fire with .
on a Azerty keyboard Strafe with ; and = Fire with :
mouse_sensitivity 5
sfx_volume 8
music_volume 0
show_messages 1
key_right 174
key_left 172
key_up 173
key_down 175
key_strafeleft 44
key_straferight 47
key_fire 46
key_use 184
key_strafe 184
key_speed 182
use_mouse 1
mouseb_fire 0
mouseb_strafe 1
mouseb_forward 2
use_joystick 1
joyb_fire 0
joyb_strafe 1
joyb_use 3
joyb_speed 2
screenblocks 10
detaillevel 0
snd_channels 4
usegamma 3
chatmacro0 "Non"
chatmacro1 "Meme pas mal !"
chatmacro2 "Je suis pret"
chatmacro3 "T'es dans un sale etat !"
chatmacro4 "Salaud"
chatmacro5 "Tapette"
chatmacro6 "La prochaine fois peut-etre..."
chatmacro7 "Viens ici !"
chatmacro8 "Prend garde a toi"
chatmacro9 "Oui"
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Jonas Thorell <jonasth@bahnhof.se> writes:
I'm just writing to thank you for a great port of this game, and to
verify that the added support for a CD32-joypad does indeed seem to
work. Granted, not an official Commodore one but it does work. The
directions work as expected, fire as well and the forward button
brings up the menu. That's all. The other buttons don't do a thing (if
they aren't meant to, why not add support for strafing and switching
weopon with the pad as well?).
[...]
>Check Gabry's comments near the end of src/amiga_video.c .
Thanks, all buttons actually did something.
>Sorry I can't test from here. Other people said strafe works with the
>rectangular buttons on the front, from memory.
Well, sort of. It does strafe but have a tendency to get stuck in
strafe-mode after that.
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Alvaro Thompson <alvaro@enterprise.net> writes:
I see that in the configuration file, you actually have settings for
the keys of the game (In ASCII Raw Code right?). Perhaps you could
make an external editor which lets you edit the keys of the game?
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Andrew Deacon <andy@deakmann.demon.co.uk> writes:
Your controls are:-
Red=Fire
Blue=open
Yellow=Run? (re my previous email about 060 speed probs - it's a
liitle difficult to tell).
Green=last message
I suggest the following
Red=Run
Blue=Cycle between weapons (if possible)
Green=fire
Yellow=open
This would make it simarlar to AB3d which a lot of us are used to.
In the long run perhaps you could let people set their own prefs.
ggreco@iol.it (Gabriele Greco) replies:
You can do it very simpy editing your .doomrc file, it's by default:
joyb_fire 0
joyb_strafe 1
joyb_use 3
joyb_speed 2
To archive your configuration your simply have to swap the use/speed/fire
buttons. Do not touch joyb_strafe since it's used in a tricky way.
You can't perfectly reach your desired configuration since I actually
use green to see last message as I've no time to look in the code for
a way to swap weapons (it's not as immediate as the rest of the
control since such a function doesn't exist in doom...)
AD> In the long run perhaps you could let people set their own prefs.
Actually you can partially do it :)
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Peter Thiessen <pkarlos@pangea.ca> writes:
While networking with another mode and using the talk option the keymap for
characters are messed up in particular:
: is M
. is :
q is a
z is w
w is z
These are just a few I have found there may be another character that I
haven't used yet that has problems!
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Joseph Fenton <jlfenton@ctaz.com> writes:
So how soon until SEGA controller support? :^}
I did send you info on that as well; I've got
the CD32 controller on my A1200 and the SG ProPad
on my A4000. I can switch them easy enough, but
it would be nice to start seeing programs support
the SEGA pads as they are easier and cheaper to buy.
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Martin Johansson <martjo@algonet.se> writes:
I also read that there had been complaints about some keys (likte Ctrl for
fire). Isn't the values in ".doomrc" simply the ASCII values for the keys,
like "key_fire 157". In that case it is easy to change the keys the way
you prefer it, assumed you know the ASCII values.
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Jan Christiansen <janc@post7.tele.dk> writes:
Having the option of customizing the keyboard, would be nice. Consider
the possibily of steering with the numeric keys, instead of the arrow
keys.
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Allan Versaevel <favers@oxford.net> writes:
I was wondering if it is possible (easy) to have the Green CD32 Joypad
button cycle through the available weapons ? As if the user pressed
1,2,3,4, or so on. If it can be done, there would be almost no need to
go to the keyboard while using the joypad.
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Martin_Dirk@t-online.de (Dirk Martin) writes:
I tested v0.4.
That was a delightful surprise!
1)The joypad control is 100% O.K. (I kill the monsters very confortable)
2)I thing it works a bit faster.(but You know, never fast enough)
The game becoms more and more an professionell character.
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Stephen Webber <s.g.webber@strath.ac.uk> writes:
[...] Being in possession of a CD32 joypad, I can
tell you that the code you are using seems to work okay; the two
"shoulder" buttons are strafe left and right, and the two bottom buttons
in the group of four are fire and use. If one of the other two buttons
is configured for run, then I couldn't get it to run.
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Guillaume Ubbelohde <950947@mercure.umh.ac.be> writes:
I just tried ADoom v0.5,
The joypad option works fine, and seems to fix the 'turning bug'.
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Richard Davies <mq9402@cs.may.ie> writes:
I'm not sure
if you are aware that the "<" and ">" keys in the original Doom and
in your port of Doom move the player to the left and right. A small
problem I am having with playing ADoom is that the fire button is
nowhere near the sidestep keys. Both myself and a number of my
friends play doom (and its clones) with theright hand on the cursor
keys and the left hand performing sidestepping and firing. The
Amiga keyboard of course does not have the "ctrl" key at the bottom
right of the keyboard unlike PC's.
Here's the thing, could you cause the right amiga key to fire as
well as the "ctrl" key in your next release of ADoom.
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Simo Naukkarinen <yason@ecstacy.yok.utu.fi> writes:
I must be the millionth to ask this question but does ADoom respect
.doomrc ? I'm fed up with the quite impossible key layout (at least after
4 years of PC/Linux Doom:)) and I thought that would it be possible to
remap the strafe/fire/run keys by setting them up correctly in .doomrc ?
If the keyboard fields in .doomrc are respected, what are the correct
codes for Amiga environment ? The same as keycodes for IDCMP_RAWKEY
messages ? Inputevent definitions ? Something else ? (I need keycodes for
r-amiga, r-alt and r-shift)
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"Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk> writes:
you might want to include this in the next documentation.
CD32 pad controls
up - forward
down -back
left- left
right - right
red - shoot
blue -activate switch or open door
yellow - run
green - last message
rewind - left side step
fastforward - right side step
start - menu
would it be possible to make the green button cycle throught the
weapons?
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Jason Frecknall <jay@blidworth.demon.co.uk> writes:
I have just got the latest version (0.7) and it's great that you have remapped
the RAmiga key, however there is still a problem.
If you press and hold fire fire (Right Amiga) and then press a movement key it
doesn't do that action and carries on firing on the spot.
If you press and hold a movement key first, then press fire it works fine.
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Martin Nielsen <mntly@post6.tele.dk> writes:
When I use the RightAmiga key to fire instead of CTRL I can't move
around while firing. This is quite annoying :)
Maybe you could use the key to the left of the RightSHIFT key
instead as firebutton.
[...]
I know what it is... there are many build-in hotkeys in the Amiga OS
that use the AMIGA keys. For example you can emulate a mouse by holding
down an AMIGA key and pressing the arrow keys. I think that's what's
interfeering with the controls in the game.
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Andrew Deacon <andy@deakmann.demon.co.uk> writes:
I've re-configured the joypad controls in .doomrc but for some
reason Adoom sometimes reverts to the original controls.
This seems to happen if i've used other programs before loading
Adoom. If I load Adoom straight after booting it uses the new controls
ok.
Any idea why this might be?
Also it would be great if The Green button could be configured.
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glum@vszbr.cz (Ex (ZEx)) writes:
[...] coz Doom is old games it use old style of mouse control
What about improve it :) pliiiiz
with mouse only turn left or right fire and open doors on right mouse button
and on arrows towards backwards and strafe left and right
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orbital@t-online.de (Michael Schulz) writes:
I have found a litte "bug" on all adoom version if you uses foreigen
keyboards.
( = not the USA keymap)
I use as a german guy of cause also an german keyboard which uses an
different keymap.
So if i want to quit the game and want to confirm this with pressing
"Y" the i have to press "Z".
The same problem on the gamma correction.There i have to press "Ü"
(german special character) and not [ or ] .
I think this won't be a big thing to change.I can't do it for myselb
because i'm only a user.
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"R.A. Munn" <ram8@leicester.ac.uk> writes:
Would it be possible to add to the cd32 controls (i.e. something
like map for green, toggle weapon for yellow, strafe for the left
shoulder, run for the right shoulder, and pause for the play button)
- this would allow keyboard-free playing
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^_^ <bitbrker@ionet.net> (Tm2) writes:
Just thought you'd like to know how things are going on this
end. First, the double-buffering under AGA has madee the game
*much* better looking and indeed more professional looking.
Now it really looks like a "commercial" quality game.
Also, the 020+ optimized C2P is noticably faster on 030. It
may be only 10% or something like that but it's noticable and
every bit of speed helps. :)
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Nick <Niksa.Franceschi@public.srce.hr> writes:
Erm.. actually smthing went wrong with this c2p!
Version 0.4 is now much slower than 0.3 on my 030/50!!!
I think it's due to double buffering, or some wrong timings. Dunno exactly
why, but it's ~30% or even more slower, since you can really feel big
difference in speed!
I hope you can solve this :))
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Jesper Svennevid <chip@ramses.ml.org> writes:
And PLEASE, add an option for forcing adoom into using the 040 c2p and
skipping the doublebuffering, as it goes rather slow actually, with double-
buffering(At least, it feels so).
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^_^ <bitbrker@ionet.net> (Tm2) writes:
It's definitely *not* slower on my 030-50MHz. Even a PC friend of
mine said he could notice a definite speed increase. However, perhaps
you could add a switch to select 040 or 020/030 C2P? Then maybe
everyone will be happy. :) It's even notably faster in my hacked
DBLNTSC 320x200 31.45kHz/74Hz mode (I had to adjust the pots in my
VGA monitor to get it full screen).
Everyone around here (including friends of mine which own Pentium
PC's) have essentially gained a new-found respect for the Amiga in
general thanks to your port. Kind of a "hey that's pretty neat" and
a smile. And in turn, I haven't felt the need to put down their PC's
or "defend" my Amiga. Strange, isn't it? But *very* welcome! Seems
like this year is going to be a good one for the Ami!
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Lawrence Harrell <drlove@ibm.net> writes:
Thanks for a great game. On my hardware 0.4 is significantly slower
than 0.3 (and 0.2) and sometimes the demo at the beginning will not
stop even when I select new game. The sound does, however, seem to be
improved in 0.4.
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Lawrence Harrell <drlove@ibm.net> writes:
Since 0.3 it's just got much slower on my system :( So I'm sticking with 0.3
for the moment. Thanks anyway for a great game. 0.5 runs OK, apart from the
speed, but my system crashed shortly after I exited and the music seems to be
struggling to play.
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tristan.fletcher@severed.overflow.com (Tristan Fletcher) writes:
I have to run 1/2 screen to get anywhere near a decent frame rate, yet I see
A1200 owners with only 030-50Mhz saying they are getting very good framerates,
and they are only using AGA. I guess it's a quirk of my system as I have an
A3000T, 040/40Mhz and a picasso II card. The only thing I can think of is I
don't have any RAM on my 040 board, it's all on the 3000T's motherboard
(although it is all 60Ns stuff)
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Matthew Gregan <kinetik@caverock.net.nz> writes:
I don't know if you've released a newer version yet (Aminet recent doesn't
come up until about 3pm our time), but I grabbed ADoom 0.4 the other day, and
it's running roughly half the speed of ADoom 0.3... I would have expected it
to run faster because of the dedicated 020/030 routines... Is there a problem
causing it to slow down?
Incidentally, if I run MCP before I play ADoom, it doubles the C2P time
according to the timer... It doesn't seem quite 1/2 the speed, but it's
definately slower. Not sure why, but you might want to put something about
that in the docs so the other users can experiment and see if it's slowing
them down or whatever too.
[...]
I've got version 0.5 now... It's no faster than 0.4 but the big slowdown with
MCP isn't happening anymore, which is a bonus. It seems MCP isn't affecting it
much now.
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Marius Lauritzen <Marius.Lauritzen@fix.no> writes:
I've downloaded ADoom-0.5 ! (I had 0.3 before)
It was MUCH faster on my machine!! ;DDD
[...]
Amiga1200 030/50Mhz,120Mb Hd,18Mb Ram.
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dhomas trenn <dhomas@youngmonkey.ca> writes:
Just a quick note to let you know that the -net option is broken in
version 0.2 of ADoom. It worked in 0.1, but locks up my AmiTCP network
under 0.2. This happens once it gets to the 'waiting' or 'sending'
connection part (before the game starts).
[It worked for me, Peter McGavin]
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Moses Leslie <marmoset@ctr.net> writes:
First of all, networking is not broken in .3, it worked fine for me and
many others. One caveat, however, is that it seems to require miami
2.92+, 2.1p versions don't seem to work, they hang on the "opening custom
screen" line or whatever it is. I have no idea why that would happen, but
it's something to suggest to people who complain about problems :)
[...]
The networking is actually decent, too, if I hook up with someone else on
a decent ISP and we aren't too many hops away :)
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"Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk> writes:
I have also tried the TCP net work and it works perfectly. This is
using AmiTCP over a line (demon) although it was really slow :(((
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Steffen Flick <sflick@stud.uni-frankfurt.de> writes:
You are asking if there is TCP/IP driver for DOOM - Yes and No - There is a
sort of emulating a serial line over TCP/IP (on Amiga this means something
like telser.device) for DOS DOOM. In my opinon this is not networking - the
same for the nullmodem options with some Amigagames. But I downloaded
Win95DOOM and noticed that TCP/IP is supported (via Winsock). But I didn`t
told me the Port that it used, so that I can simply try it out - But I will
try to sniff this out)
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ggreco@iol.it (Gabriele Greco) writes:
I use this code (in another project) to set the socket in non blocking mode:
void NetNonblockingIO(struct Session *s,int onoff)
{
struct Library *SockBase=s->SockBase;
#ifdef AMI_TCP
IoctlSocket(s->net, FIONBIO, (char *)&onoff);
IoctlSocket(s->net, FIOASYNC, (char *)&onoff);
#else
s_ioctl(s->net, FIONBIO, (char *)&onoff);
s_ioctl(s->net, FIOASYNC, (char *)&onoff);
#endif
}
I see you use only FIONBIO!
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Jesper Svennevid <chip@ramses.ml.org> writes:
I thought I just let you know that playing over the net DOES work.
I've been playing adoom over internet for several days now, without
any problems. I'm using Miami 2.92 as TCP/IP-stack, and I have even
played ADoom against the other ports of Doom.
[...]
I've been playing with version 0.2...
[...]
It was against both linux-doom and against the amiga-port 'AmigaDoom'.
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CHRISTOS COUCOULIDES <flatline@acropolis.net> writes:
All idea is I see my PC friend has a small
program which start doom and call through a simple modem his other friend
which start the
same program in answer mode and they link and
play doom. ( Gloom has an option like this)
As understand this won't happen here because
the doom is a Linux Version ??
and need AmiTcp for network.
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Adam Carrano <adamca@aix.pacwan.net> writes:
I tested Adoom v0.4 on two A4060 with ariadne ethernet cards and
AmiTCP and it works very well and fast.
I also tested via the Internet with two Amiga and Miami and it works but
if you want best performances the players must have the same provider and use
these
arguments to limit the transfert data:
for fast networks and deathmatch mode:
-NOMONSTERS -ALTDEATH -DEATHMATCH
yes, Adoom supports these arguments.
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Andreas Kuester <a.kuester@kds-online.com> writes:
Congratulation for your ADoom, we play it for many hours with much fun!
When we play over network (Ariadne ethernet with AmiTCP v4.3) and
finished the first level, both machines leave doom and switch to workbench.
Do you have any idea?
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Peter Thiessen <pkarlos@pangea.ca> writes:
My System:
Amiga 2000
030/40 w 8 megs 32 bit ram & 6 megs 16 bit ram!
OS v3.1
1 Meg ECS Agnus
Running:
Miami and MUI
ADoom so far works ok right now with networking, although it's a bit
slow on my system when networking! The only time I had it crash was when me
and a friend played it for 4 hours straight against the monsters, then miami
airport crashed! Keep up the good work! :)
[...]
I just thought I'd make a comment since you reported in your
readme file that certain users couldn't network with 0.3 and noted that you
hadn't tested it! Well was tested for four hours with a netfriend with
monsters before it crashed...in fact we were at the end and couldn't finish
it because of the crash! :+)
You know it'd be nice if one could reconnect to your netfriend without us
both having to restart the program. Note my IP address is dynamic! Perhaps
there's some way for the program to detect new players and add them instead
of us having to reload the program to play! Things like that would be most
welcomed! :+)
[...]
Command used is: adoom -net 1 <Net #2 IP-Address>
adoom -net 2 <Net #1 IP-Address>
While playing the Doom Shareware mod which is about 4.8 Megs or so in normal
team mode, the following problem occurs after we complete the first level
thus not allowing us to continue:
Screen Mode $00011084 is NATIVE-PLANAR EXTRAHALFBRITE
Error: W_GetNumForName: WIOBJ not found!
I_ShutdownSound()
I_ShutdownMusic()
Total number of frames = 1639
Total blit wait time = 2982859 us (1819 us/frame)
Total safe wait time = 3415577 us (2083 us/frame)
Total C2P time = 97871046 us (59713 us/frame)
Total WPA8 time = 0 us (0 us/frame)
End of game at this point! We can play fine in modes deathmatch and
nomonsters and complete the entire wad file! BTW Are there any othe modes
for selecting different levels to start from?
Note: -deathmatch and -nomonsters modes work fine so far!
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"Paul Webb" <orion@thenet.co.uk> writes:
[...] I use Miami to get on to the Internet and I I've
found a problem with it and your port of Doom, and probably the other
one as well. Miami sets an envrionment variable called "Home" in the
ENV: assign and it seems to be confusing ADoom. The game runs alright
but any changes to the controls that I have made in .doomrc are lost
as it can't find the file. There are two soloutions that I can see,
change the code in ADoom and program out the problem or copy the
.doomrc file into the directory that Miami has set for Home, in my
case it's the TEMP: assign but I believe the default is SYS:.
I read on your ADoom history that ADoom 0.2 and 0.3 hang on exit,
I'm afraid to say that on my machine 0.4 hangs as well, but only when
run from Workbench, I usualy run it with no startup to get the biggest
chunk of ram I can.
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Dean Husby <webmaster@akasa.bc.ca> writes:
[...], any change of rewriting the network code to be internet
friendly? It sure would be nice to have a 4 player kill fest, I tried
Adoom with one person but it was so slow and painful. (And crashed
alot)
[...]
If you were to recreate the networking code to allow for 4 players at
a good speed, people would love you all the more for it. I know I
would. The Amiga has so very few Net games, none of which had any
lasting ability.
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Peter Mattsson <pmats@algonet.se> writes:
Is it possible to implement serial linking in your DOOMport? I've heard that
this wasnt even implemented in the original MSDOS version of DOOM. In that
case this would be difficult to program, or am I wrong?
I think that serial linking would be more of use than network linking,
as everyone has a serial port but not many have network-cards.
The second reason is that games like DOOM, Duke3D and Quake tend to
be quite boring unless you play against a friend :). The third reason
is the thought is quite funny: Playing serial DOOM on two Amigas, and
PC owners might notice the power of Amiga. :)
>I believe ADoom already works over a NULL-modem cable with
>(SLIP or PPP) and (Miama or AmiTCP). I've received contradictory
>reports about how good the performance is.
Okay I will shortly try that with a friend! But my senses tell me
networking on a 030/50 together with DOOM isnt going to be fast,
if you know what I mean. But I dont want to sound negative before Ive
tried it myself..
[...]
I have now tested networking with Miami on two A1200/030/50!
It worked after some hours of struggling with Miami<->ADoom, but
the result was below expected. Even at the smallest window, it was
still unplayable. To make it faster, I think a 2x2 resolution or
real serial linking would be the things to do.
[...]
Well, you can trust me on this one: it was unplayable, even at the
smallest window. And we used two Amiga1200/030/50 with Miami v2.1
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fabsced@techplus.com (F. Shaun C Edwards) writes:
I run an A1200 with 060-50 & AGA. I have 40 megs ram so I load the
whole doom setup that I wish to run into ram, then start it. [...]
when playing Adoom on Inet, I get about 10-15 fps, so the net support
is doing great. If there was a way to reduce packet output during
play, that could speed up the game a bit. :)
[...]
For some reason, whenever I run a net game with someone (started last night),
either me or the opponent will get "Error: consistency failure (24805 should
be 24806)" after about 10 sec of playing. then ADoom will shut down on that
end which messed up. Can you fix it?
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acdc_hacker@hotmail.com (MAX HEADROOM) writes:
My friend & I have also enjoyed it via TCP/IP.
[...]
COMPUTER: A2000+040/MMU/FPU/28Mhz - Kickstart 40/Workbench 3.1
17MB RAM.Picasso2+CGX(24bit)/Exabyte 8200 DAT/2.2 Gigs HD Space
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Isak Schmidt <robert_b@algonet.se> writes:
-I played tcp/ip network game with a friend today (using Miami and
null-modem) and it was S-L-O-W!! It was not even playable in the
smallest window available. I was wondering if there is any way to
include a null-modem option for playing deathmatch etc. It would be
really nice.
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flo@sci.fi (flow/da passive!^panik.) writes:
I was wondering if I want to play with my pc friend ADoom,
and we have null modem cable, but how should we configure to
get everything work?
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"Adam Atkinson" <ghira@mistral.co.uk> writes:
I've been trying to play via the net and I get stuff like:
Error: consistency failure (10914 should be 10896)
and :
Error: consistency failure (-4405 should be -4401)
after, say, a few seconds to a few minutes.
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"Robert L. Wise" <rlwise@csrlink.net> writes:
Great program!! But it fails over the internet after a short time of play.
[...]
Error: consistency failure (1153 should be 1154)
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"Troels Walsted Hansen" <troels@stud.cs.uit.no> writes:
I tried ADoom 0.5 a couple of days ago in multiplay with a friend over
ethernet. We both use A4000/060 with CV64 cards, and Miami for
software. ADoom froze when one of use died and pressed space to
resurrect. The game froze just before the green flash disappered. I
think it went into a 100% cpu loop. The other client stayed alive, but
slowed down to a complete crawl (1 frame every 2 minutes). We
reproduced this 3 times with various startup options. We used the WAD
from www.pluk.com. The problem didn't happen with ADoom 0.4.
Thanks for a very nice Doom port. :)
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Nick Tamm <nicktamm@nmol.com> writes:
My brother and I have two computers connected via a null-modem serial
cable, and running AmiTCP with SLIP on both of them, we are able to
play DOOM as though it were over a network. So, thank you for a great
port.
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Roy Krister Ellingsen <yver@online.no> writes:
[...] I was just wondering if you could implement something in
"ADoom"? I were thinking of a link-option so you could link on "Doom" with
Pc-Users. Now I see that the link-option on the Pc is done in the setup-file,
so therefore there aren't any chance for the Amiga-users to link on it (yet),
but therefore I hoped that you could do a setup-file for "ADoom" so more
options became available for the Amiga-users too (eg. link,
keyboard-configuration and mouse-control). [...]
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Adam Carrano <adamca@aix.pacwan.net> writes:
When I play in local network, one of the players (sometimes the 1st
and sometimes the 2nd player) automaticaly leave the game after a few
seconds. And I don't do anything for that !!!
[...]
The network problem has been removed in ADoom v0.6
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Parzys john-guillaume <parzys@club-internet.fr> writes:
I think that a communication with a NULL-modem cable is necessary for
the AMIGA people
(because the ethernet board is more expansive)
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Marius Lauritzen <Marius.Lauritzen@fix.no> writes:
Do you think you're going to install a simple link-program
between two computers?
[...]
We tryed Miami.... But... We don't understand how to get it to work.
After that we tryed AmiTCP..... We diden't understand one single thing.
After 5 hours of trying to get a connection between the two computers
we gave up. And we desided to wait if there will come a later version
of ADOOM with a link-program. Miami uses MUI and will therefore slow
the game much down.
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joe@bahnhof.se (Johan Erkers) writes:
Just wanted to let you know ive tried to network ADoom and
Win95Doom. Win95Doom supports TCP but no luck unfortunately :-/
It waits forever but cant find the other end.
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Stefan <stefan.oggemar@mbox200.swipnet.se> writes:
1. If I start a network game and I type in the wrong address it's no way to
quit it?
2. It's so damn jerky when playing a networkgame, is there anyway to make it
faster?
3. Some of the keys are mapped wrong when using chatmode? Can it be fixed?
[...]
Btw, my system config is: A1200/030/50MHz/16MB FAST/ NO GFX BOARD
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"Lasse Pedersen" <volmer@vip.cybercity.dk> writes:
ADoom is wonderful!
But you need to do something to the multiplayer
side of things!
TCP/IP is great for Amiga<->Amiga<->Amiga etc games, but
what we really need (the ones with an ethernet-card), is support
for the ipx-protocol in networkgames. I've just spotted AmIPX on
aminet.
It's a shared library, which should be quite easy to get into.
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David A Gibbs <einy@einy.demon.co.uk> writes:
We GOT Adoom to connect using serial Link on Miami using PPP with
packet size 296 speed 19200.
It Worked FINE....Bit slow becuase i found out I was the MASTER
(030/45Mhz 8Mb) and my mate was playing SLAVE (040/40Mhz 16Mb). Every
time I did an option (map,etcc) his update slowed dramitcally for a
sec.
We changed the config around and boy it was playable. We tried with
both the DOOM1 shareware WAD and the DOOM2 (comm.wad).. DOOM1 played
excellent (also with WARP) and so did DOOM2..when we changed levels on
DOOM2 it seem to slow down...
Also Turn of the -maponhu and rotatemap options..it SLOWS DOWN...
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Joseph Fenton <jlfenton@ctaz.com> (author of the MUS-play code)
writes:
The MUS player only uses two of the audio channels (0 and 1,
although the channel numbers can be changed). That leaves
2 channels free for the SFX. By having music on two and SFX
on the other two, the master volume is still controllable using
the channel volume in Paula. You'll notice that I combine up
to 16 voices and use an arithmetic shift for fast volume scaling.
The bfffo (log2(x)) gives the shift so that the volume remains
linear. If you combine SFX, you use more processing power,
but can then use the sepeartion as the voice volume when
adding into the left or right buffer just as I use the instrument
channel volume to combine the instument voices in the MUS
player. I don't use the panning in the MUS file because I never
saw a MUS score that used it, but it could be used to do seperate
left and right output.
If you don't combine SFX, you only have two instead of four
channels. Not much of a tradeoff as many folks use lower counts
on the real DOOM for a speed up. Plus, if the music is turned off,
you could go back to four channels again.
[...]
[about MIDI_Instruments]
They are the standard MIDI instruments and percussions by the way; we'll
also be trying to do a new file ourselves sometime. One hint, do most
normal or high pitched instruments at 72 and low pitched instruments
(bass) at 60; they sound better that way because the 11K sample rate
limits how good you can get one end or the other. Sampling at an
octave closer to where it wil NORMALLY be played makes the instrument
play back better.
[...]
If you look at the MIDI_Instruments.s file, it is a table of offsets to
the instruments; the instruments are:
LONG Sample Rate in MIDI_Instruments, replaced by ptr to wave in player
FIXED Loop Start (if non-zero) of instrument
FIXED Length and Loop End of instrument
BYTE Flags, 0 in MIDI_Instruments
BYTE Note Base of sampled instrument, 60 = sampled at middle C, 72 =
sampled at 1 octave above middle C.
ARRAY OF BYTES Instrument wave data in Amiga raw format (8bit signed)
The sample rate should always be about 11050; if the instruments are
significantly off from that number, the note sampling table should be
altered to correct the deviation.
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RUiNa <ruin@warwick.net> writes:
Hey I just wanted to say thanks for making a great port of Doom, and I'd like
to request that you put in real MIDI support.. not too many games for the
amiga use MIDI for sound, and since the original DOOM used MIDI, it would
seem to make sense.. There's a lot of amiga users with midi equipment and it
could add alot to the port.. Once again, thanks!
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"Thomas Danielsson" <thomda@Algonet.se> writes:
Is that possible to use a extern sound module or a synth, to play the music
instead internal?.
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StAn <efabre@hol.fr> writes:
the music sounds very strange, like if the pitch was
changed 1 or 1.5 second after the beginning of each instrument.
(hmm I say "pitch" but I'm not sure)
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"John Herzfeld" <johnh@user1.channel1.com> writes:
[...] I am probably one of only a
few Amigans with a midi device attached to my machine.
A yamaha synth in my case.
It should be easy to port the Doom music to us, right?
It would be great if you could do that.
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"Andy Gardner" <valkyrie@enterprise.net> writes:
There is one thing I would like to ask and it concerns the main new feature in
Version 0.5 - the music. In the main archive you included a file called
"MIDI_Instruments" so the music could now be played. I know there are a lot
of people out there who, like myself, have GMPlay (General Midi Player)
installed on their Amigas. And more importantly have high-quality 16-bit
samples which are used in the play back of Midi files.
Is there anyway of accessing these samples (either by accessing the GM:
directories directly or by including a program so we can compile our own
"MIDI_Instrument" files using samples from GMPlay)? It would alow us to have
better and clearer samples without having to rely on you to provided a HUGE
great Instrument file. In my case I have 25Megs of samples in my GMPlay
directory and I don't think you'd want to ship a copy of ADoom with a 25Meg
music file in it would you? ;)
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Vesa Halttunen <vesuri@jormas.com> writes:
Stereo sounds would be cool.
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^_^ <bitbrker@ionet.net> (Tm2) writes:
* The music plays some sour notes. I'm assuming that the MUS
player or the MIDIFiles file needs some work?
* The music is not in stereo. All of the Doom music takes
advantage of stereo effects.
Some ideas?:
* MIDIFiles sampled at 28kHz? That would sound a lot better. ;)
* Music frequency playback at 28kHz? 11kHz is pretty noisy.
[...]
Just thought I'd let you know that the new MIDI files are indeed a
lot better than the old ones. There's an apparent waveform "clipping"
problem with some of the songs though. Also, when switching between
songs with the IDMUS cheat, eventually the songs start to sound like
they get transposed incorrectly.
[...] even at 11kHz, the music sounds very good.
I even tried one of my favorite MUS PWADs, "30Tunes1.WAD". All in all, it
really, really sounds good. Once the slight occassional "popping" is removed
from the MUS player, it will be even better.
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Dirk Neubauer <neubauer@rz.uni-greifswald.de> writes:
Thanks for new version. Works great, with Doom2 too. But the music now
is ugly. But may be my slow processor is the reason for.
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Guillaume Ubbelohde <950947@mercure.umh.ac.be> writes:
The music option works too, but is of pretty poor quality. Can't this be
better?
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Alexander Niven-Jenkins <anj@cremlinsoftware.org> writes:
But can I also say that with music it's got that little bit more, well
done. Keep up the good work!
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Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6sterberg?= <drkoss@algonet.se> writes:
Could you please add a -nosound option (or similar), so that ADoom doesn't
try to allocate audio channels or play audio at all. I noticed that I couldn't
play Doom and listen to some mp3 instead of Doom SoundFX/Midi Music, since
ADoom initializations shut down completely if it couldn't allocate audio
channels (Playing Quake and listening to mp3 works fine, since Quake doesn't
use audio).
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Benji <ben.cowdall@qatraining.com> writes:
The MIDI music player was quite a suprise - shame the music in the game
is so poor on the "real" PC version!
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"R.J.Lundie" <MBCX4RJL@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> writes:
would it be possible to add an
option to output the MIDI music to the serial port? That way, the
game will run much faster (and sound much better) for those
(including.. ahem.. me) who have GM sound modules.
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"Thomas Danielsson" <thomda@Algonet.se> writes:
I have one quick question about the file MIDI_Instruments.
1. Is that possible to make a own MIDI_Instruments file, and how it's done?.
I asking because i own a Korg X3 synth, and i was thinking to take samples
from it. But it depens how difficult it is, to make a such file as MIDI_Instr-
uments.
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Vesa Halttunen <vesuri@jormas.com> writes:
BTW, I got an idea. Doom has MIDI music so how about adding support for
external MIDI devices using serial port? I have a synth and a mixer so I
could listen to the music from the synth (with quality sound) and the SFX
from Amiga.. The MIDI tunes do not sound that great with my synth either
(do GM songs ever?) but it's better that way anyway. I sampled the output
of my synth if you want to hear it :). Maybe someone could help you add
this feature in ADoom if you don't have time yourself? I haven't tried
coding any MIDI stuff myself, at least not yet.. but if I have time to
check it out, I might try. Probably there are 444767324 MIDI experts out
there tho'.
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Guillaume Ubbelohde <950947@mercure.umh.ac.be> writes:
Nice work on the music.. [...]
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Martin <mbiro.i3m@metronet.de> writes:
Hi, I'am running now ADoom v0.7 with the Music Pack from Joe Fenton and with
my 68060 and 48MB Fast-RAM it works verry well (it doesen't matter if I enable
the -music option or not).
Thanks 2 You and Joe Fenton....
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"James Gerard Brown" <jim-brown@mailexcite.com> writes:
The music is working fine, at first I thought it was broken but then
remembered I had turned it down when using the 030.
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Tomasz Kepa <maryan@newton.zsmeie.torun.pl> writes:
[...] Are you considering to make a utility to covert GMPlay
16bit samples to MIDI_Instruments file?
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^_^ <bitbrker@ionet.net> (Tm2)
So, when do you think the stereo separation for sfx will be added?
You could just add some simple pan logic. For example, nothing complex
just being played on either the left speaker, right speaker, or both.
Also, I look forward to when the MUS player supports 22kHz playback,
because that will really sound cool.
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Cyril Deble <Cyril.Deble@inforoute.cgs.fr> writes:
I've noticed that some sound are played in full volume whatever
the sound setting.
I ve got an hearth attack when my headphone screamed like a
demon at full volume :) :)
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Stephen J Leary <9600149l@student.gla.ac.uk> writes:
Am I Correct in thinking that dooms music is MIDI?
If so it would only be a little bit of work to stck the Midi data out
through the serial port to an awaiting Midi device. Like my
ProjectXG. Midi is Midi so the data need only be directed to the Midi
port.
I`m more than willing to test for you.
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david.martinez@dret.upf.es writes:
[...] I also would like to join to the people who have
asked you for doing a version of ADoom which can handle real MIDI sound,
when using the Amiga with a MIDI keyboard or a MIDI music module. The
MIDI emulation id OK, but with real MIDI equipment the sound would be
much better and there would be practically no CPU usage (that would
really kick the PC's ass!).
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"Ben 'bean' Cass" <bean@ideal.net.au> writes:
The music in Adoom is an especially nice feature. If only the player was a
little faster. :(
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"Shaun F." <shaunf@box.net.au> writes:
I've found the following quirk when playing ADoom:
I have a blizzard 1260 68060 accelerator, and when using ADoom withOUT
having a fastexec patch (to place exec.library in FASTRAM, as the 1260
does not do this by itself), ADoom runs very very slow indeed.
Upon using FastExec or BlizzMagic's Fastexec feature, sysinfo reports
exec.library in fastram, and Adoom runs very fast and smooth. What's
the cause of this? Is ADoom VERY exec intense or something?
I was jsut thinking, many people with 1260's installed, with no
fastexec patch might find it unplayably slow.
[...]
I just read your docs in ADoom 0.5, and it says for 060 users,
FastExec dramatically increases the speed. It actually seems to be
FastExec's "SSP to FastMem option" which affects the speed of
ADoom. FastExec is quite annoying, because it reboots the machine on
every cold startup. A much better solution is to use a program such as
MCP which has a SSP to FastMem option in it's processor prefs section,
and doesn't require rebooting on cold startups.
I'm sure there's other programs around which are simple commands that you can
add in your User-Startup or whatever that move the SuperVisor Stack to
FastMemory.
You can easily check if your SSP is in fastmem with a program like SYSspeed,
in it's System Configuration window. Look at the memory address of SSP:.
[...]
It appears that with the latest versions of ADoom, it now runs fine on
a 68060 without any FastExec or SSP to fastram things installed. As a
big guess, it probably had something to do with emulation library
activity in the Supervisor Stack Pointer area. Anyone correct me if
I'm wrong, because I don't have much clue about programming :)
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Martin Knott <martin.knott@ki.comcity.de> writes:
My Proble: I think, it is not working well with my A1200 with 060 CPU.
Only 1-2 Frames per Second. I think, it is much faster on an Amiga
4000 / 040, but why...?
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Peter Pettersson <peterp_m@algonet.se> writes:
Hey Peter,u have done a great work with Doom,it works for everyone ti run`s
fine with my friends 1230,when i run it it`s slower than 020,and i got 060.
Have u test it on 060?..it doesn`t work when i turn the 060 rutines off and
run it as a 040 either.
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Andrew Deacon <andy@deakmann.demon.co.uk> writes:
ADoom 0.5 has solved my 060 speed probs.
I've gone from 4.5fps on a small screen to 17.99 on a full
size screen with the control panel.
I haven't got FastExec (patches exec.library to fastmem amongst other
things) working yet, so maybe it'll be even faster then.
An Apollo user said FE made a huge difference on his machine.
SUPERB SUPERB SUPERB
[...]
perhaps it's FastExec responsible for the speed increase after all as
Amidoom now runs faster as well. Strange that Adoom 0.4 didn't get
faster when I first installed Fast Exec though.
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"Shaun F." <shaunf@box.net.au> writes:
I have an A1200, with a 50Mhz 68060 Blizzard 1260 card, and 16 MB EDO FastRAM.
When running ADoom withOUT MCP's "SSP to FASTRAM" option, it's very very slow,
unplayably slow. However, if the Supervisor Stack is put into FASTRAM, ADoom
is very very smooth, the way it's meant to be. BlizzMagic and FastExec have
options to place SSP in fastram as well.
I never thought the SSP to fastram thing made such a huge difference, but it
certainly does with ADoom. What's the reason for this? People with 1260's not
running any SSP to fastram patches must find ADoom unplayably slow!
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Alexander Niven-Jenkins <anj@cremlinsoftware.org> writes:
My main reason for this mail is about the fastexec thing, this is not
needed what so ever. I do not run it or any patch that puts the exec.library
into fastram and ADoom runs perfectly fine, even with various things going on
in the background.
If you need to run fastexec or similar program it is because you are
running a bad hack or program. That is slowing something down!
And I'm sorry to say the odds are it is MCP. Even though this program
might work wonders for some people there are so many options in it that you
might have ticked one that really you shouldn't have.
[...] it's not necesarrily MCP, I don't want to start another argument
about it. But MCP does have alot of options and some of them do cause
problems on some machines and not on others.
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Martin <mbiro.i3m@metronet.de> writes:
I'am using OxyPatcher by OXYRON... with this Patch AmiDoom runs about 3 or 4
times faster than without... on my 060 board it works fine, but on a 040 board
OxyPatcher doesn't help ;(...
[...]
I get the ENV-Settings for CyberGraphX v3 and I changed my settings for
the Cybervision 64/3D. Now DOOM is running very smooth ;)
I get the settings from >http://www.vgr.com<
Many new features are not released with the CGX-Software in the manuals!
I hope it can help other users using CyberGraphX v3 and a GFX-Card :)
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Fabio <kaneda@mbox.queen.it> writes:
I have AMIGA 1200/60 AGA and previous version was
very slow with 68060, but now it's VERY FASTER !!!
PETER, YUO ARE MAGIC :)
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Marco Marczykowski <beavis@lanobis.de> writes:
AmiDOOM works very nice on 060/50 with the OxyPatcher!!!
try it :-)
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David A Gibbs <einy@einy.demon.co.uk> writes:
About this FASTEXEC thingy..The game WILL RUN faster if you have the
LIBRARIES in the FASTMEM, My Viper MK 1 uses the old non-friendly
PCMCIA memory which when the computer is turned on auto puts the mem,
exec libraries into fastmem..
FASTEXEC, MCP and a few others do this and speeds up the game becos it
can fetch stack and library info faster in fastmem than chip cos the
processor got exclusive access to this mem..
Most poeople will say it doesnt matter, but most prob they dont know
that some picasso and other libraries sneakily uses fastmem without
showing it...
(Plz don't take offense if U already know this..i was just clearing up
this stupid argument, you're port of DOOM is excellent and take AB3D
II for a spin.)
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tom@ai.inka.de (Thomas Boerkel) writes:
About your comment about BlitzBlank in your Aminet readme of your Doom
port:
You can always turn off Joystick checking in BlitzBlank with an ARexx
command or with the preferences program.
Unfortunately, AmigaOS doesn't let programs share the gameport.
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Nicholas Piper <pcomm@inorbit.com> writes:
Command Line Options
--------------------
Not sure about all these yet, seems there are loads. These are the ones
I know of though, and what I *think* they do :-) Also, I've not
checked they all work...
-devparm Allows you to use "special" command line options. This
is normally needed... also, in MS-DOS Doom at least,
this will let you press F1 to get a 256 screen capture
in pcx format. Dunno if it works here though, I'll
test it later :-~)
-warp # $ Warp to episode #, level $
-skill # Start with skill level # (between 1-5)
-respawn Baddies just keep on coming :-) 8 seconds after you
kill them, they regenerate....
-record [file] Records the action into [file]
-maxdemo # Sets maximum size (in k) of the recorded demo
-playdemo [f] Plays back the action from [f]
-loadgame # Loads # saved game (number, between 0-5)
-deathmatch Deathmatch mode. Otherwise, uses Cooperative mode
-episode # Starts episode # (1-3). Default is Episode One, =
Knee-Deep in the Dead.
-nomonsters Guess :-)
-fast Fast monsters, like in Nightmare mode
-turbo Makes your bloke run faster :-) between 1-255
-avg Ends game in 20 minutes
-nojoy Turns off joystick
-nosfx Turns off sound fx
-nosound Turns off sound.
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Zer0-X <zrx.oms@sci.fi> writes:
And what's also neat is that the cheats in original PC-DOOM works still:
IDCLEV## (Episode & Level) - woun't work with the Plutonia version.
IDDQD - God mode.
IDDT - 2 times in the map reveals everything.
IDKFA - All the guns and stuff.
IDBEHOLD - following by first letters of the words in the top left corner=
of
screen.
IDCLIP - Walk through walls.
and some other codes, if you didn't know them already...
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Arto Huusko <arto.huusko@pp.qnet.fi> writes:
I have here a rather terrific tip for ADoom players with
such slow machines as I have (040@33+CV3D). No, but one
really cannot play Doom in THE full screen even with
a set up such as I have unless one uses low detail
which does not look even nearly as cool.
BUT... change the screenmode to something like 640*480
and that low detail looks just as good as high detail
on 320*200 (smaller, one must admit). And plays faaast!!
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madjack@zumzum.tky.hut.fi (Tuomas Aho) writes:
I found possible reason why Adoom lockup in my A1200/28Mhz.. It was patch
called ExecPatch 4.9..... i removed it, and now ADoom works just fine!!
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Joseph Fenton <jlfenton@ctaz.com> writes:
The DOOMWADDIR environment variable is okay, you just need to
document it for people. My scripts are a better deal for people with
memory.
This script starts The Ultimate Doom
IF EXISTS DOOM_SE:
copy ADoom RAM:ADoom
copy .doomrc RAM:.doomrc
copy MIDI_Instruments RAM:MIDI_Instruments
copy DOOM_SE:DOOMCD/DOOM.WAD RAM:DOOMU.WAD
cd RAM:
stack 20000
ADoom -music -forcedemo -mmu
delete DOOMU.WAD
delete MIDI_Instruments
delete ADoom
copy .doomrc Work:Games/Doom/.doomrc
delete .doomrc
ELSE
echo "Ultimate DOOM CD not found!"
ENDIF
This script starts Doom 2
IF EXISTS DOOM2B:
copy ADoom RAM:ADoom
copy .doomrc RAM:.doomrc
copy MIDI_Instruments RAM:MIDI_Instruments
copy DOOM2B:DOOM2CD/DOOM2.WAD RAM:DOOM2.WAD
cd RAM:
stack 20000
ADoom -music -forcedemo -mmu
delete DOOM2.WAD
delete MIDI_Instruments
delete ADoom
copy .doomrc Work:Games/Doom/.doomrc
delete .doomrc
ELSE
echo "DOOM 2 CD not found!"
ENDIF
This script starts Evilution (TNT on Final Doom)
IF EXISTS FINALDOOM:
copy ADoom RAM:ADoom
copy .doomrc RAM:.doomrc
copy MIDI_Instruments RAM:MIDI_Instruments
copy FINALDOOM:TNT.WAD RAM:TNT.WAD
cd RAM:
stack 20000
ADoom -music -forcedemo -mmu
delete TNT.WAD
delete MIDI_Instruments
delete ADoom
copy .doomrc Work:Games/Doom/.doomrc
delete .doomrc
ELSE
echo "Final DOOM CD not found!"
ENDIF
This script starts The Plutonia Experiment (on Final Doom)
IF EXISTS FINALDOOM:
copy ADoom RAM:ADoom
copy .doomrc RAM:.doomrc
copy MIDI_Instruments RAM:MIDI_Instruments
copy FINALDOOM:PLUTONIA.WAD RAM:PLUTONIA.WAD
cd RAM:
stack 20000
ADoom -music -forcedemo -mmu
delete PLUTONIA.WAD
delete MIDI_Instruments
delete ADoom
copy .doomrc Work:Games/Doom/.doomrc
delete .doomrc
ELSE
echo "Final DOOM CD not found!"
ENDIF
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Martin <mbiro.i3m@metronet.de>
You better change the -heapsize option to 4096, because with the
default settings (Tooltype) of 2048 the game didn´t start (on my 060,
maybe it works on 040 based systems).
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tobia_Patern=F2?= <mc6346@mclink.it> writes:
Anyway, all I can say you -mmu option helps a lot on my 040 /40.
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"Mathias Roslund" <mathiasroslund@hotmail.com> writes:
I wrote to you a few days ago, asking about an ADoom homepage.
You then said it was ok, if I made one.
I've now made a first atempt.
It's location is: http://hem2.passagen.se/sids/adoom/
I would really apreciate if you checked it out. I'm not very good
at HTML or graphics, but I've done my best. It only covers version
0.4 right now, but that is since I uploaded it yesterday!
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bartlett@which.net (bartlett@which.net) writes:
I maintain an Amiga Doom Web site (the second most popular, IIRC;)), and
I just wanted to let you know about it. The URL is
http://homepages.which.net/~bartlett/, but it's quicker to use
http://amidoom.home.ml.org.
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Ridwan Hughes <fox@ridhughz.demon.co.uk> writes:
ADoom 0.5, it's now on http://www.pluk.com/
and it's mirror at http://amiga.tc3net.com/doom/
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"Martin ®ídek" <quido@list.skm.vutbr.cz> writes:
Adoom www page in czech language is running at
http://www.list.skm.vutbr.cz/adoom/
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"Stefan Blomen" <stefan.blomen@koeln.netsurf.de> writes:
[...] When you [...] go into the "transporter", version 0.5 hangs
while it worked with 0.4.
HW: A4000, CS MK1 060, PiccoSD64, cgx3
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Stephen Kroh <steve@ici.edu> writes:
When I installed version 0.5 on my machine, going through a teleport
would lock up the game. This happened in any episode, with commercial
or shareware WADs. When I went back to 0.4, the problem disappeared.
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J.Urbanek@t-online.de (Juergen Urbanek) writes:
I fount a new bug in V0.5. When I use a Teleporter in
Doom 1 than Doome hangs.
In V0.4 it works. Also the Demo-Problem comes much later in V0.4 ?! And there
are sometimes enforcerhits...
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"Adam Atkinson" <ghira@mistral.co.uk> writes:
[about ADoom 0.5]
I notice, though, that teleports now freeze the machine for several
minutes. One lasted so long I rebooted. Is this a consequence of all the
warp / idkfa stuff or could it be a problem with level 8 itself? Seems hard
to believe that teleports work differently on different levels, so my guess
would be that warp and so on must cause problems.
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dhomas trenn <dhomas@youngmonkey.ca> writes:
There appears to be a bug in the handling of teleports. The game crashes
when exiting them. That is, enter teleport, you teleport, a smear of
blue debris (???) appears and the game locks up.
I've noticed this at the teleport at the end of the DOOM1 demo wad, and also
early on in the doom2.wad (which I just got today :). I don't think it
did this in earlier versions, but it might just be these particular
teleports.
[...]
I'm not sure, but it might have to do with how you use the teleport. I
played around with it last night and here's what I think. If you are
moving when you arrive at the receiving end of the teleport, it won't
crash. If you arrive in the teleport and are standing still, it
crashes. In others words, holding down a cursor key while teleporting
is okay.
This may or may not be the problem... when I tried it though it was
okay... might have been coincidence though.
[...]
I tried 0.6 last night and it appears that the teleport crash is also
fixed now. BIG THANKS!
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Ruben van Staveren <ruben@luna.net> writes:
[...] the teleport bug is no more present in v 0.7
(well it was actually since v 0.6 but that version had other problems)
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THE PNAMES BUG
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Jake Frederick <gonzo@acadia.net> writes:
First let me conragulate you on an excellent job porting Doom. Version
0.1 worked fine on my machine, but since 0.2 I get this error;
"R_Init: Init DOOM refresh daemon - Error: W_GetNumForName: PNAMES not
found!" Any idea what could be causing it?
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Christian Just <just@zfn.uni-bremen.de> writes:
I tried to run adoom in all versions from 0.2 to 0.6, but never succeeded -
the same happened with the other doom ports available. I am using picasso96 on
a CV64, A3000/040/Kick 3.1 and never gut a screen requester, but, when
starting from shell I got the message:
"R_Init: Init DOOM refresh daemon - Error: W_GetNumForName: PNAMES not found!
I_ShutdownSound()"
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BILL SEVERING <BILL.SEVERING@usda.gov> writes:
Glad to see DOOM make the Amiga. My problem, however, is different.
Whenever I try to run ADOOM, It accepts the WADS, but I get a message
at the refresh Daemon of W_getnumforname: PNAMES not found!
And then it stops. Cannot seem to figure this out. Do you have any idea
what I am missing here?
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Jacek =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F3=FBa=EFski?= <jacza@free.polbox.pl> writes:
I've got a problem. During starting of Doom 2 on my 030/28 8MB strange
information appears:
[...]
DOOM 2: Hell on Earth v1.10
[...]
---> R_Init: Init DOOM refresh daemon - Error: W_GetNumForName: PNAMES
---> not found!
[...]
What the hell does it mean? The same WAD file works fine on my friend's
computer (Apollo 040/25). Moreover the same incription appears when I
run the other ports.
I've got no troubles with running Doom 1.
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inelec@sa.omnes.net (tgm) writes:
As soon as i copy DOOM2.WAD to the game's
directory, the ADoom program explodes as follows:
ADoom 0.8 (22.1.98)
[...]
Error: W_GetNumForName: PNAMES not found !
The infamous PNAMES not found bug, which i read in the documentation it was fixed,
but not !
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Tim & Lora Kovack <tjlazer@wport.com> writes:
I have a Picasso IV and Picasso 96 update 1.34a and cannot play
ADoom on my A4000 anymore. Is this a bug in ADoom or P96 1.34a?
[...]
Actually if I delete the ".doomrc" file that was created on older P96
1.33 it now works...
..But now the game runs 3-4 FPS SLOWER than Picasso 1.33 Update!
[...]
Ok it's Ultimate Doom WAD that will not work with ADoom under
Picasso96 1.34a, others (Doom1.WAD, DOOM2.WAD) work but around 4-5 FPS
Slower than Picasso96 1.33!!!!
Doom Attack ran with Ultimate Doom WAD at 10 FPS LOW DETAIL in P96
1.34a -- same speed as older P96 software.
ADoom 0.8 runs about the same 10 FPS Low Detail as DoomAttack at low
detail in Utimate Doom, with older P96, but on P96 1.34a runs at 7 FPS
Low detail!!! A lot slower indeed.
[...]
I finally found why your Excellant Doom port runs slower on my sys with P96
1.34a. It's the rtg.library in LIBS:Picasso96/rtg.library. I installed the
earlier version and it runs fine. I guess it is a bug in the rtg.library.
Maybe it is a 040 thing on my system, as I talked to others with 060's and
they say it works fine... I get a 060 this week, so I am anxious to see if
this problem will go away. Hopefully the next P96 rtg.lib will fix this. The
funny thing is other doom ports are unafected by this.
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Dirk Neubauer <neubauer@rz.uni-greifswald.de> writes:
I have tried ADoom 0.7 and 0.8 with doom2.wad and Picasso96 V1.34a and
nothing worked. I have tremendous graphic bugs or the game wont load.
With AmigaDOOM nothing such happens, it worked fine.
But with P96 V1.33 and ADoom 0.7 all works fine. But i need V1.34 of P96
for playing Myst correctly.
Other guys, who use P96, have nothing such problems, i think with the
shareware wad. I use an Picasso2+.
[...]
> Does ADoom 0.8 work OK after a reboot with no startup-sequence and
> SetPatch?
Yes, it runs fine on aga-screens, from wb or without startup. I will
test now to start without startup and mount p96 and try then. Sometimes
i come til to the choosing of load and save and then the crash. Once i
was in a game, but then comes very hard gfx bugs and a crash.
[...]
Now i have test it, it worked fine with ehb (without setpatch) and aga
screens without startup-sequence. But the p96 screens crashes also
without startup-sequence, i mount these screens for test, of course.
[...]
> Are you sure you have the right versions of all the P96 libraries, and not
> some mixture of incompatible versions?
I have the newest archive.
[...]
> FOREIGN CYBERGRAPHICS screenmode
Thats the thing it say.
[...]
I have found the bug for Adoom with P96. In P96 you can specify a
Tooltype for the monitor file named SOFTSPRITE.
If it set to YES, a software emulated mouse pointer are there, like this
from amiga os. If NO is set, the mouse pointer comes from the graka, if
its possible. But this pointer looks ugly for me.
And Adoom runs if this Tooltype is set to NO. Thats not a real solution,
because i cant toggle this setting easyli, only a reboot changed that.
Your prog is the only one, i have problems with.
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Jason Frecknall <jay@blidworth.demon.co.uk> writes:
No one seems to have mentioned this yet, but creatures (usually the zombiemen)
often walk towards you facing the wrong way or even backwards. This has
happened ever since the first version.
[...]
>That's weird. Thanks, I hadn't noticed it. I'll have a look at the code
>for it when I get a chance...
BTW forgot to mention - it's most noticable on the first demo played (Circle
of Death). One of the chaingun men faces backwards as he gets shot walking
towards you. It's just before he passes the blue key door on the right.
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nedmonds@concentric.net (Jason Edmonds) writes:
I just thought I'd email you to tell you my experience with your very
excellent port of Doom. I have tried ADoom versions 0.4, 0.5, and 0.6
on the the following setups: A3000 w/ A3640@25MHz, OS 3.1, 12MB Fast, 2MB Chip,
730MB Quantum SCSI HD, GVP Spectrum 28/24 & Picasso96 software
The second system is A4000 w/ GVP TRexx II 68060@50MHz, 32MB Fast, 2MB Chip,
OS 3.1, 2.1G SCSI-II drive, PicassoIV & Picasso96 software.
Amazingly, I am able to start up ADoom on both machines using the
shareware Doom1.wad and registered Doom2.wad files. However,
on the A4000 setup, the machine locks up after a few minutes playing
and I need to do a complete reboot. Needless to say, very frustrating.
This happens regardless of screenmode (i.e. native Amiga or Picasso96 RTG modes).
Do you have any idea what this is? I suspect it has something to do
with the GVP 68060.library (version 1.2 BTW).
[...]
Some good news to report. I tried using ADoomv0.7 on my GVP 68060-equipped
A4000 (w/PicassoIV/P96 software) and it works much better. I have a total
lockup only about every ten-fifteen minutes now using the registered doom2.wad
file, as opposed to every two-five minutes with v0.6. Whatever you did with
v0.7, the 68060 seems to like it better, although it is still not perfect.
The lockups still occur when you touch a wall or drop down a level. This
could be a bug in the original Doom code which is not noticed on slower
machines such as 68040 or less. When the lockups happen, there is usually a
noticeable split in the screen sprites, offsetting one frame from another. I
also tried adjusting the tooltypes to use the Directcgx option but this didn't
seem to make a difference. In any case, it is much more playable now that it
is useable for more than a few minutes. Keep up the good work. - Jason Edmonds
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"Zoltan Szalay" <zoltan.szalay@tecton.sk> writes:
Good joke Peter, ADoom0.7 is only ADoom0.5 with new version$ !!!
Why?
This version (287826 bytes long LHA archive) of Adoom0.7 don`t recognize =
new tooltypes & produce red stairs on start of 1st level Doom2.WAD & in =
startup window says ADoom0.5 (8.1.98).
Please, compile ADoom0.7 again with right source files and send it to =
Aminet & www.pluk.com
[Huh! Peter McGavin]
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azatorsk@pop.ski.mskcc.org writes:
Does not matter what version of ADoom I try to start my Amiga is finishing with
statement: R-Init: Init Doom refresh deamon - Error: malloc (91878900) failed
I-ShutdownSound( )
Now i can close window and that it!
Other ports of Doom also don`t work - my Amiga is crashed or frozen at the
same point.
I have an Amiga 3000, 2Mb Chip RAM, 16Mb Fast RAM, CyberVision 64 2Mb,
68040 25MHz (Commodore 3640) .
Please help if you can, to solve this mystery!
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Tomasz Kepa <maryan@newton.zsmeie.torun.pl> writes:
I use version 0.7 of ADoom and discovered a small bug: when scaling the
window down from the biggest, there is some trash left in the place that
was taken by window before scaling down.
[fixed in 0.8 I think, Peter McGavin]
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Zer0-X <zrx.oms@sci.fi> writes:
[...] some of the exit messages aren't
printed correctly. and here's one example:
"Don't go now. There's a dimensional shambler waiting" and the message should
continue with: "at the dos prompt."...
I think these messages are bugging in all the ports except in PSIDoom...
(And the first message is never printed at all.)
It's very tiny bug indeed but fixing it would take it yet more closer to the
perfect! :)
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THEY SAID IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN
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On 14 Feb 1994, e0f1ztly@tuzo.erin (Bruno Fernandes) wrote to
comp.sys.amiga.games:
I have no clue whether or not anyone will be foolish enough to port DOOM
to the Amiga. I love the machine but can recognise its weaknesses. It is
indeed impossible to make DOOM as it is known on the PC for the Amiga.
Anyone doubting can ask their friendly neighbourhood games programmer. I
know a few, so that's where my information comes from. :) The texture
mapping and 3D routines are highly dependent on the availability of chunky
pixels. Creating for conversion of chunky data to planar data will
produce far too slow a game - especially if anyone is thinking of a
full-screen offering. 2 friends have created routines far faster than the
ones posted here, available on Aminet and also made by Chris Green.
Routines for mapping and also some routines for chunky conversion. If you
will be happy with a slow game, then I am sure someone might be willing
to provide you with one. Pop a CD32 board with the Akiko into the A4000
and you now have some faster routines for conversion and a far more
suitable system for this type of game. For true playability and that
Amiga charm though... We'll have to wait for some Advanced Amiga
Architecture (AAA) options to become available. Then if someone choses
you can have your DOOM+ :8^) (and really beat up on your VGA buddies)
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On 15 Feb 1994, in response to the above message, p.mcgavin@irl.cri.nz
(Peter McGavin) wrote to comp.sys.amiga.games:
On an A4000/040, the bottleneck for c2p conversion is writing to chip
RAM. Whether you have an Akiko in your A4000/040 or not, c2p
conversion takes exactly the same time with the best algorithm.
We don't have to wait for AAA. There are existing Amigas that would
run Doom just fine (if someone would port it).
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On 15 Feb 1994, in response to the above message, freund@cis.uab.edu
(Jason Freund), the author of the rot3 texture mapping demo, wrote to
comp.sys.amiga.games:
[...] I laugh whenever people compare processor speeds and conclude that
Wolf/DOOM could be done on a Mac or Amiga because the Mac and Amiga (both would
run a DOOM simulation at the same speed, incidentally) don't have the 1
critical thing that makes DOOM INHERENTLY ~8-10 times faster on the IBM than on
the Amiga: chunky pixels. On the Mac/Amiga, for every pixel you need to
do logical operations in each bitplane to read and write the pixel from/to
the appropriate byte in memory. On the IBM, all these operations are done
at once because you can simply pick up a pixel and put it down in 1 move.
So at the innermost level (where 85% of the work is really done), the IBM
is inehrently at least 8 times faster.
[...] IMHO, DOOM is not possible -- not even close -- even on an 040.
Obviously, this will incite a lot of flames on this group, so let me qualify
this: No existing Mac/Amiga will ever run DOOM as fast as a 286. I am very
confident about this. Wolf was barely possible since there were so many
limitations that happened to just barely fit in the Amiga's schemes.
DOOM does lots of things that could never be done using any chunky
pixel emulation scheme on the Amiga. We might be able to pick up a few
tricks from DOOM that weren't in Wolf at very little speed loss, but
some things are actually IMPOSSIBLE (floor, ceiling, outside). Note:
IMPOSSIBLE means: Impossible to implement on Amiga and have it go as fast
as DOOM on 286. And an even longer list of DOOM things would slow down an
Amiga engine to make it intolerably slow.
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In early 1995, ID Software's "finger help@idsoftware.com" said:
[...] There will never be a port to these machines:
Amiga, Sinclair 2000, Apple //gs, TRS-80. [...]
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The comp.sys.amiga.games FAQ states:
6) "DOOM" on the Amiga.
It's not avaliable. ID Software have stated that there will not be
port of DOOM to the Amiga for technical reasons. [...]
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On 29 May 1995, paul@labyrinth.apana.org.au (Paul Shandi) wrote to
comp.sys.amiga.misc:
> What is *your* favorite barometer of Amiga health?
When ID Software releases DOOM for it! :)
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On 22 Nov 1995, Doctor@team17.com (Marcus Dyson) wrote to
comp.sys.amiga.games:
When we started developing AB3D I spoke to id about the possibility of
just doing an official, id sanctioned Amiga Version of Doom. They wanted
$50,000 before they would even talk. I assumed this to be a starting point
for negotiations, but no, that was a 100% firm position. No $50,000, no
AmiDoom!
They said that it was for so that they could be sure that the finished
product would be worthy of the Doom name. But to be honest, if we had
given then $50K we would have had to sack Andy Clitheroe and have the game
written by the tea lady, and it would have been pants.
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On 14 Aug 1996, Espen.Berntsen@himolde.no (Nameless) wrote to
comp.sys.amiga.games:
[...] Besides, it is impossible to make a good DOOM clone on amiga.
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On 1 Nov 1996, Mat Bettinson <anthony@cu-amiga.demon.co.uk> wrote to
comp.sys.amiga.misc:
[...] Now don't get me wrong here, I'm probably one of the most loyal
Amiga users in existence, but I know reality when I see it, and Doom
just isn't possible on the Amiga. If you want to play games like that,
then just buy a playstation and keep the Amiga for other stuff like
Internet etc. That's what I do. [...]
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SAS/C PROFILE OUTPUT ON 40 MHz 68040 WARPENGINE + GVP-SPECTRUM
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SAS AMIGA 68000 Profile Analyzer V6.50
Copyright © 1992-1993 SAS Institute Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Profile Statistics for adoom_debug
3778 run + 222 ready + 167 wait = 4167
90.664% run, 5.328% ready, 4.008% wait
31.445% samples (1188) out of profile range
counted = 2576, RUN - NonTable 1188
Routine % Total % Offset Hits Label
28.7656% 28.7656% 45f0 741 @R_DrawColumn_040
12.5000% 41.2656% 4858 322 @R_DrawSpan_040
11.7236% 52.9891% 49c0 302 _R_RenderSegLoop [lines 3-144 in amiga_draw.s]
Most hits - 11.7236% (302) on line 3
4.8524% 57.8416% 1e2c8 125 @R_MakeSpans [lines 337-360 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_plane.c]
Most hits - 1.7857% (46) on line 337
4.1538% 61.9953% 1e37a 107 @R_DrawPlanes [lines 368-454 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_plane.c]
Most hits - 1.8245% (47) on line 449
3.1055% 65.1009% 1f35c 80 @R_DrawMaskedColumn [lines 353-390 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_things.c]
Most hits - 1.1258% (29) on line 366
2.4068% 67.5077% 1dfae 62 @R_MapPlane [lines 125-179 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_plane.c]
Most hits - 0.3882% (10) on line 156
2.2515% 69.7594% 22728 58 @V_DrawPatch [lines 209-264 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/v_video.c]
Most hits - 1.1258% (29) on line 258
1.9798% 71.7391% 1c71c 51 @R_GetColumn [lines 392-407 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_data.c]
Most hits - 0.4271% (11) on line 401
1.5528% 73.2911% 1fa36 40 @R_DrawSprite [lines 862-970 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_things.c]
Most hits - 0.23210% (6) on line 960
1.3976% 74.6894% 203e8 36 @W_CacheLumpNum [lines 498-519 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/w_wad.c]
Most hits - 0.7376% (19) on line 516
1.2423% 75.9317% 290d8 32 __CXAMEMCPY [lines 2-3 in _cxamemcpy]
Most hits - 1.2423% (32) on line 2
1.2035% 77.1350% 17eb0 31 @P_DivlineSide [lines 59-99 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/p_sight.c]
Most hits - 0.3494% (9) on line 92
1.1258% 78.2609% 1e6e2 29 @R_StoreWallRange [lines 389-758 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_segs.c]
Most hits - 0.1553% (4) on line 731
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SAS AMIGA 68000 Profile Analyzer V6.50
Copyright © 1992-1993 SAS Institute Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Profile Statistics for adoom_debug
8704 run + 1926 ready + 203 wait = 10833
80.348% run, 17.779% ready, 1.873% wait
6.067% samples (528) out of profile range
counted = 8105, RUN - NonTable 528
Routine % Total % Offset Hits Label
19.9507% 19.9507% 45f0 1617 @R_DrawColumn_040
15.3855% 35.3362% 8d7fa 1247 _c2p1x1_cpu3blit1_queue [lines 68-442 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/c2p_030.s]
Most hits - 2.1344% (173) on line 176
12.0789% 47.4152% 49c0 979 _R_RenderSegLoop [lines 3-144 in amiga_draw.s]
Most hits - 12.0789% (979) on line 3
8.0568% 55.4719% 4858 653 @R_DrawSpan_040
5.2190% 60.6909% 1e2c8 423 @R_MakeSpans [lines 337-360 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_plane.c]
Most hits - 1.7026% (138) on line 337
3.1956% 63.8865% 1f35c 259 @R_DrawMaskedColumn [lines 353-390 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_things.c]
Most hits - 0.9131% (74) on line 366
2.5047% 66.3912% 1c71c 203 @R_GetColumn [lines 392-407 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_data.c]
Most hits - 0.76410% (62) on line 392
2.3196% 68.7106% 8ed40 188 @SetFPMode [lines 25-29 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/amiga_fixed.s]
Most hits - 2.3196% (188) on line 28
2.1839% 70.8946% 1dfae 177 @R_MapPlane [lines 125-179 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_plane.c]
Most hits - 0.2591% (21) on line 156
2.0851% 72.9796% 1e37a 169 @R_DrawPlanes [lines 368-454 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_plane.c]
Most hits - 1.0488% (85) on line 449
2.0482% 75.0277% 22728 166 @V_DrawPatch [lines 209-264 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/v_video.c]
Most hits - 0.8883% (72) on line 258
1.60310% 76.6318% 1e6e2 130 @R_StoreWallRange [lines 389-758 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_segs.c]
Most hits - 0.0741% (6) on line 758
1.4683% 78.09910% 203e8 119 @W_CacheLumpNum [lines 498-519 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/w_wad.c]
Most hits - 0.3825% (31) on line 502
1.1967% 79.2967% 17eb0 97 @P_DivlineSide [lines 59-99 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/p_sight.c]
Most hits - 0.4689% (38) on line 92
1.1351% 80.4318% 1fa36 92 @R_DrawSprite [lines 862-970 in Work7:Programs/ADoom/r_things.c]
Most hits - 0.1850% (15) on line 953
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